Originally posted by Syndicate
Of course not. He won because of a form advantage AND a rage amp.
Had absolutely nothing to do with a form advantage.
He had that same "form advantage" every time they fought. And he was usually pissed every time they fought as well.
Have any other excuses for Anakin winning/ Dooku losing?
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Had absolutely nothing to do with a form advantage.He had that same "form advantage" every time they fought. And he was usually pissed every time they fought as well.
Have any other excuses for Anakin winning/ Dooku losing?
Except the RotS novel mentions specifically that Dooku had no idea Anakin was a Form V practitioner until their fight. And Anakin as a Jedi does not draw on his rage in combat regardless of your head canon.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Had absolutely nothing to do with a form advantage.He had that same "form advantage" every time they fought. And he was usually pissed every time they fought as well.
Have any other excuses for Anakin winning/ Dooku losing?
Please, if you're using the RotS novel as a basis for Anakin destroying Douku then you also need to accept that that same novel indicates Anakin was using Shien on their previous duels. Hence why Anakin surprises him with Djem So. So he didn't have the "form advantage" in their previous duels.
Dooku was fighting Anakin and Obi-Wan together at the start of the fight and needed to expend energy beating Obi-Wan. So theres that too.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
No it doesn't. When will people stop repeating this BS? It's like you can't interpret a simple line.
Yes it does.
"Skywalker's Shien ready-stance had been a ruse, as had his Ataro gymnastics; the boy was a Djem So stylist, and as fine a one as Dooku had ever seen. His own elegant Makashi simply did not generate the kinetic power to meet Djem So head-to-head. Especially not while also defending against a second attacker."
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
And yet he had to expend even more energy blocking just one of Skywalker's strikes. 😂
Granted but there's also the fact that Dooku needs to focus partly on keeping an eye out for Kenobi when facing Skywalker.
And I think we all know how important having all your focus on your opponent in combat is.
"Skywalker leapt for him again, and this time Dooku met the boy's charge easily. They stood nearly toe-to-toe, blades flashing faster than the eye could see, but Skywalker had lost his edge: a simple taunt was all that had been required to shift the focus of his attention from winning the fight to controlling his own emotions."
Originally posted by Syndicate
Granted but there's also the fact that Dooku needs to focus partly on keeping an eye out for Kenobi when facing Skywalker.And I think we all know how important having all your focus on your opponent in combat is.
"Skywalker leapt for him again, and this time Dooku met the boy's charge easily. They stood nearly toe-to-toe, blades flashing faster than the eye could see, but Skywalker had lost his edge: a simple taunt was all that had been required to [b]shift the focus of his attention from winning the fight to controlling his own emotions."
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And once Kenobi was KO'ed, he definitely didn't have to.
Yes and fortunately Palpatine teaches him to use his fear mid-combat, by then Dooku had already lost. Dooku's knowledge of the Force and combat experience meant absolutely nothing. He was utterly outmatched as soon as Anakin learnt that vital truth. When they'd killed Windu and Anakin was knighted Darth Vader, his mindset achieved a state where he could casually pick apart his emotions and stomp out his fear. Throughout Knightfall he casually slaughters some of the best swordsman in the Order.
It is only on Mustafar that he loses his edge as he experiences a dreadful forewarning of what will happen and he loses control of his fear from then on.
Originally posted by Nephthys
People with crazy rage amps are a thing. That Anakin achieved a level he never did again is irrelevant.And I mean, this is just assuming we take the novel description with way more credit than it deserves.
Hell, the text goes out of its way to even note that Anakin's rage is being held at bay.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
So, the writer and choreographer of all of the fight scenes in the prequels who personally came up with their fighting styles and skill levels isn't to be taken seriously?Right. 😂
Right.
Short version: To interprete a text [or fictional work], you need to seperate it from its creator.
And in this particular case: I seriously doubt, that Nick Gillard was involved in the CGI fighting scenes, which means, literally, every single fight that Yoda was involved in. And we can extend that to the complete "Clone Wars" and "Rebels" series as well, which means Gillard was only involved in a small fraction of all lightsaber fights we've seen, that are needed to be taken into consideration for this thread.
Not that this is even an issue, as Yoda would casually destroy any version of RotS Anakin / Vader with the Force.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
It's a shame, then, that Anakin wasn't amped for most of the fight. 😂Hell, the text goes out of its way to even note that Anakin's rage is being held at bay.
Yeah, sure thing:
"There was a thermonuclear furnace where his heart should be, and it was burning through the firewalls of his Jedi training. He held the Force in the clench of a white-hot fist. He was half Sith already, and he didn't even know it.
This boy had the gift of fury."
Just because he wasn't going supernova doesn't mean he wasn't using his rage. He blatantly was.
I notice you didn't answer my question, which tells me you have no confidence in your position and frankly who could blame you.