What Xmen can compete with the Kryptonians in physicals?

Originally posted by leonidas
this is priceless...

What's priceless is your lack of anything approaching reading comprehension.

author--the fight takes place out of time in the length plank between moments....

In the Planck length between moments. Not length Planck, and it's clearly referring to time here. Did you fail English? The world "length" has many uses, and it's being used to refer to time.

me: length means length

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/length

Yes, and what does length mean? What can it mean or refer to? You're not understanding how the word is being used here.

you: length means time. ignore what the author said and look at the context fool!

The author didn't say anything or make any official statements about it. Which is besides the fact that would be using author intent, and that it's not what's described or seen in the story.

Which you claimed I was doing, and now you're trying to do it?

me: but....length also works perfectly well within the context of the story and given what we saw...

No, it doesn't. I already explained this to you several times. It doesn't male any sense. You would need to ignore the entire scene for it to be acceptable. It would need to be about shrinking instead of time-manipulation.

you: context fool!1!!1 length means time!

It can, and it does here explicitly. Your interpretation doesn't work, and breaks the entire scene.

me: but the linear term makes perfect--

No, it really doesn't as I already explained. This is not referring to distance, and there is no shrinking going on.

you: contexttt!!1!1! now i've answered all of your questions. ares CAN move at a kajillion times the speed of light fool!! just look at how this random wall of nonsense i'm going to repost proves it!!

It's not nonsense. I explained in triplicate what was happening. I gave you comparisons. I gave you scans. I gave you everything you needed yet you still refuse to listen.

It's just a matter of working on your reading comprehension which appears to be lacking.

me: 😂 i haven't seen a trainwreck like that argument since the last time i entertained h1. 👆

I haven't read bricks of text as disorganized as yours in several years. It makes me wonder if you even have read each of my points.

You're sounding kind of obnoxious with what you're doing right now too.

thanks for the laugh, it's been fun. were i you, i'd def have run away from a bz too. 😉

Why would I run away from a Bravo Zulu? That's a compliment suggesting I have done a good job.

Nor am I occupying anyone else's space here. I am not a rude driver.

The only other thing it could have meant was Bozo, and that's actually true. I am terrified of clowns.

Originally posted by Sharivan
It is not nonsensical.

As made evident by everyone who disagrees with you in those threads.

Galan007 himself making a very convincing argument against you.

As well as Id who described it just as I did. Something that's a lot like what Zoom does. Who has read every Nate Grey appearance.

It is based on the miniscule time it would take light to travel the Planck length. Which is incredibly tiny itself, and as Endless Mike noted with the distance Nate Grey and Ares moved within this time?

[QUOTE=Endless Mike]I was originally trying to scale the total distance they moved during this fight, but that proved to be a bit of a pain, so I figured I could just do what Thanatoseraph did in his Zimmerman's Valley calc. This has qualifying marathon speed at 3.8889 m/s. (Of course this is a huge lowball, since both Nate and Ares are far above peak human physical speed).

The subjective time passed during this fight, keeping that lowball speed in mind, I think shouldn't have been any less than 10 seconds. (It would realistically be longer if you took into account Nate's speech before Ares arrived, but talking is a free action, whatever, and I'm being conservative here). 3.8889 m/s in 10 seconds = 38.889 meters.

This all took place in less than a planck instant, which is equal to 5.39106e-44 seconds. This translates to a speed of 7.213609197e44 m/s, or 2,406,201,025,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000c.

Gold Saints, eat your hearts out :maybe

That's 2,406,201,025,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times the speed of light. [/QUOTE]
We have to chalk this showing up as either PIS, complete nonsense, or misinterpretation.

For PIS,
There is no way that Ares can fight between moments (same with Nate) since it would make no sense to why they can't fight like that ANY OF THE TIME (not some of the time). If Nate or Ares has the ability then explain why they never use it (except in this one showing). They could easily beat anyone by simply operating on that level. They are not stupid enough to not use that ability over losing a fight. They must don't have the ability basically 100% of the time.

For nonsense,
It makes no sense for Ares to hit the ground with that type of speed and not destroy the planet. Thus it makes no sense that's he's moving very fast.

For misinterpretation,
They are completely out of time in that state where they can't affect the material world physically. Nate, in that state can travel backwards in time (that's what I believe the writer was hinting to) and change the past only after exiting that state.

I lean towards PIS though since that would be the most sound argument.

cool, so you're gonna battlezone it? speed feat vs time manip feat. we can start immediately and get some judges. sweet.

^ It will have to wait at least a week. 😉

banned?? 😠 he was moderately interesting too, and i am bored as hell.... 🙁 oh well, back to watching ray donovan....

Wait what happened...who got banned h1 or the other guy?

If only there were SOME way to find out, perhaps a banner of some kind across their avatar....?

😂 sin is gonna have YOU banned. 👆

Well. I saw that one coming from a mile away.

Originally posted by leonidas
this is priceless...

[b]author--the fight takes place out of time in the plank length between moments....

me: length means length

you: length means time. ignore what the author said and look at the context fool!

me: but....length also works perfectly well within the context of the story and given what we saw...

you: context fool!1!!1 length means time!

me: but the linear term makes perfect--

you: contexttt!!1!1! now i've answered all of your questions. ares CAN move at a kajillion times the speed of light fool!! just look at how this random wall of nonsense i'm going to repost proves it!!

me: 😂 i haven't seen a trainwreck like that argument since the last time i entertained h1. 👆

thanks for the laugh, it's been fun. were i you, i'd def have run away from a bz too. 😉 [/B]

anyhow....

the way I understood this thread was who in the X-Men verse can compete with Kryptonians on a purely physical level.

Technically Idris is a mutant.

Her power and physicality approaches Qabiri.

She is probably the closest to a kryptonian.

Originally posted by "Id"
Technically Idris is a mutant.

Her power and physicality approaches Qabiri.

She is probably the closest to a kryptonian.

Never heard of her. What do you mean by "technically is a mutant?"