Is "Cut Content", specifically TLSRCM, to be considered Canon?

Yeah, the game files are kinda ****ed in some ways. The ordering of some of the stuff is completely screwed. Anyway:

{[Handmaiden attacks, Kreia barely moves, deftly avoiding every blow, then gets bored, and grabs the Handmaiden by the throat, or in a Force Crush.]}

{[Calm, like a surgeon, Kreia does Force Crush, lifting Visas up.]}

WP_KREIA_END_1WP_VROOK_2{Start choke anim}Loop ChokeEnd Choke{Force crush anim?}{Start choke anim}Loop ChokeEnd Choke{Force crush anim?

{Start choke anim}Loop ChokeEnd Choke{Force crush anim?}{Kneels}Cheat - paralysis{}{}Jedi Master{Talk Trigger}

The last one occurs several times, so it seems like each of the Masters being choked. The last two bits from the game files come in really weird places, though.

Fair enough, didn't notice those extracts from the council members.

As for the earlier stuff, yes I already posted those. I think what Beni and I were discussing was whether they're manhandled simultaneously or not, and the fact there's dialogue in between each action tends to disagree with that portrayal.

Oh. Yeah, it mentions her Choking/Crushing them individually, so chances are that it's the one where Brianna runs up and attacks individually, and then gets schooled.

The others just standing there is downright stupid, though. Traya probably held them in place with the Force?

It's also worth mentioning that there's actually some bugs in-game that apply to the cutscenes, and TSLRCM fixes them. For instance, Kreia's scripted to throw back her hood when she attacks the Council, IIRC, but that doesn't happen in the game because of a bug. TSLRCM fixes that.

Just found this, with the Disciple and the Exile coming across a Jedi/Sith holocron and talking about Force Enlightenment, Battle Precognition, and other powers. It's in the game files, too, but only in TSLRCM. This might have been how we were originally supposed to learn Force Enlightenment, and how female PC's could learn Battle Precognition without the Handmaiden:

The holorcon spoke of a way of calling upon several defensive aspects of the Force all at once, a form of sudden enlightenment - it is possible that when active, a Jedi would be almost completely shielded by the Force.

The holorcon spoke of a way of keeping one's attention open, so that one could anticipate an attack a split second before it happens - and avoid it.

Yes, I have learned a meditation technique - a way of achieving one's center by clearing the mind. It is a means by which one can feel the Force around them - and use it to invigorate themselves for a time.

I included the spelling errors of "holocron" above.

Of course, instead of Force Enlightenment, you learn Force Crush in the DS version on Dantooine. So the Disciple explains it here, as well:

This new holocron - it speaks of battle and inflicting pain. Of knowing how to wound an opponent, both in their mind and spirit.

An incredibly valuable find Nova.

It's a pretty important find, I agree. It means that some of the information from the script was also altered in the final product, which puts a question mark above it's reliability.

Altered as in shoehorned in by the devs, due to time constraints. That whole bizarre scene meditating with Mical before going to Telos IV makes a lot more sense now.

This stuff is shoehorned out, you mean.

Yeah, I'm not really convinced at all that the reason they didn't key in choke animations was because they didn't have time to.

That entire scene is riddled with bugs. Kreia's supposed to throw back her hood and enter a "combat-ready pose", but it didn't happen.

Not sure whether the Choke stuff didn't work due to bugs or actual cuts or failures to implement it in.

They shoehorned in learning Enlightenment/Crush until after the Jedi Council is dead, and that was really strange because there was no reason at all to learn any actual Force techniques there. The scene afterwards on the Ebon Hawk with Mical is really weird too because he literally says he wants to talk, then says he wants to meditate and then they just sit there and the entire scene is pointless. What you, Nova, found in the script is obviously what they intended to happen, finding a holocron in the Dantooine archives and then learning things from it depending on alignment.

This confirms that the Exile's Force Enlightenment wasn't just a random game mechanic but a genuine technique she learnt from a holocron.

@Sel - Seems like the game files has a "short, quick, brutal" fight between Atton and Traya. No other details, though.

Originally posted by SunRazer
@Sel - Seems like the game files has a "short, quick, brutal" fight between Atton and Traya. No other details, though.

Originally posted by Selenial
There is definitely a section of the script that calls for Atton to attack her alone, the fight is described as "short, quick, brutal"

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But yeh, that's quite impressive given his parity with Sion and the training he's received.

Haven't been up to date on this thread 🙂

So, cut content in general...?

Battlefront 3 and other cinematics from deleed games? (This is the best thread to talk about it in)

Nova reaching harder than Mr. Fantastic to wank Traya's crusty hairy old snatch

I personally consider TSLRCM to be canon, for the reasons given in the OP. I generally don't use those scenes in debates because most don't view it as canon though.

Originally posted by carthage
Nova reaching harder than Mr. Fantastic to wank Traya's crusty hairy old snatch

Probably. I guess she uses collected buckets of Sunrazer's saliva to do it. It makes sense