Deadshot vs Winter Soldier...

Originally posted by Robtard
Guys, I think you're losing track here and downplaying either WS or DS is silly, they're both badasses, WS overall and DS at making shots. Stupidly downplaying one character to have their favorite win is the way fools like quanchi debate. Debating the positives for who you think wins is the smart approach, imo.

Anyhow, I think we can all agree that WS doesn't have DS's perfect aim. While WS pretty much has every other advantage here.

Honestly, I'm not trying to downplay DS, just trying to stop people from downplaying WS. DS has better shooting skills but WS is not a bad shot either, he misses because the caliber of targets he tries to hit are far superior to the targets that DS has tried shooting at (in the movie anyway).

My point has always been that this fight is a toss up. That WS has as good a chance winning as DS, because whatever accuracy advantage DS has is balanced by WS's mobility, reflex and blocking advantage.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Expect you've lost MORE than "every other" battlezone...

Thus your sub 500 record...

Thus you suck at debating as you lose more than you win...

Anyway, 13-5...

Deadshot wins...

:-)

😂

I stayed the course and look how things have turned out. WS wins and the tide has definitely turned, LoM. That's what compelling debaters such as myself bring to the game. Take notes and learn from me.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Regardless, it is a miss. I doesn't cease being a miss because somebody avoids it. That's like claiming a boxer didn't miss a punch because the other guy got out of the way. Come on Froth lol. That is a miss, just like WS missed. Most people don't just stand there in let you shoot them. Most shots are to active moving targets of some kind. He missed more than he hit. It's that simple

Unless you can prove that DS can block gunfire like Cap or can dodge and move like BW, your argument isn't applicable.

That's like saying Pacquiao won't be able to hit Dela Hoya because his punches kept missing Mayweather.

Originally posted by Robtard
Fair enough, as i said I'd have to watch again.

As I said, wasn't a downplay of WS as I've noted he's very formidable, just that DS would have killed Fury in the same scene since he has 100% accuracy and can make headshots with ease.

No worries. Have you watched SS yet? Curious what you think.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Honestly, I'm not trying to downplay DS, just trying to stop people from downplaying WS. DS has better shooting skills but WS is not a bad shot either, he misses because the caliber of targets he tries to hit are far superior to the targets that DS has tried shooting at (in the movie anyway).

My point has always been that this fight is a toss up. That WS has as good a chance winning as DS, because whatever accuracy advantage DS has is balanced by WS's mobility, reflex and blocking advantage.

No worries and I really don't have a massive dissagreement with your argument. imo, DS has the advantage the way this match is set, but WS could still win. Just in a 10 match, DS would take the majority as he can repeatedly make head shots, while WS could potentially miss or hit but not be a kill.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Unless you can prove that DS can block gunfire like Cap or can dodge and move like BW, your argument isn't applicable.

That's like saying Pacquiao won't be able to hit Dela Hoya because his punches kept missing Mayweather.

What? Pac fought Hoya first, so I knew he could hit him. Question, if a boxer throws a punch, and his foe dodges it, did he miss the punch?

Originally posted by Robtard
No worries and I really don't have a massive dissagreement with your argument. imo, DS has the advantage the way this match is set, but WS could still win. Just in a 10 match, DS would take the majority as he can repeatedly make head shots, while WS could potentially miss or hit but not be a kill.

Originally posted by quanchi112
DS didn't kill Batman in much closer proximity so that's a reach. Why wouldn't he shoot the fleshy exposed opening ? Speculation is speculation, shorty.

Batman attacked Deadshot from behind; Deadshot shot the guy behind him (Batmans armor deflected the bullet)...

When he had Batman dead to rights and could have shot Batman in the face, Deadshots daughter got in the way and begged her father to stop...

You know, a lie by omission is still a lie quanchi...

Shame on you troll...

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Whether I lost or not is irrelevant to what we are discussing here. It's like someone criticizing a professional for losing when never even competing on a collegiate level. You do not have the intellect to formulate an argument to this extent. You even agreed I won one the judges decided against me. One judge even admitted my argument did not matter he already sided with Darkseid. My arguments are strong and unlike you I have the intellect and the nuts to take it to the next level. You're just an asshat.

😂

Blah, blah, blah...

Take your sub 500 record and shove it...

:-)

13-5...

Deadshot wins...

Originally posted by quanchi112
I stayed the course and look how things have turned out. WS wins and the tide has definitely turned, LoM. That's what compelling debaters such as myself bring to the game. Take notes and learn from me.

The only thing a sub 500 debater can teach me is how NOT to debate...

🙂

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Batman attacked Deadshot from behind; Deadshot shot the guy behind him (Batmans armor deflected the bullet)...

When he had Batman dead to rights and could have shot Batman in the face, Deadshots daughter got in the way and begged her father to stop...

You know, a lie by omission is still a lie quanchi...

Shame on you troll...

😂

Why am I not surprised he'd use the Batman scene as another downplay attempt, making what would have been a kill-shot had the armor not been bulletproof is a positive showing for DS.

Don't know why you bother with the ranting fail troll. Downplaying is his only move.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Batman attacked Deadshot from behind; Deadshot shot the guy behind him (Batmans armor deflected the bullet)...

When he had Batman dead to rights and could have shot Batman in the face, Deadshots daughter got in the way and begged her father to stop...

You know, a lie by omission is still a lie quanchi...

Shame on you troll...

😂

So multiple seconds passed before he got a clean shot which means as per the thread WS already has him dead before his shot opens up.

Thanks for conceding the thread to WS.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The only thing a sub 500 debated can teach me is how NOT to debate...

🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
Why am I not surprised he'd use the Batman scene as another downplay attempt, making what would have been a kill-shot had the armor not been bulletproof is a positive showing for DS.

Don't know why you bother with the ranting fail troll. Downplaying is his only move.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It shows he doesn't use critical thinking against a well trained foe with a clear vulnerability. WS wins.

The evidence disagrees with your flawed argument as most people do (your battlezones are proof of this)...

The evidence has produced a 13-5 advantage in favor of Deadshot...

Deadshot wins...

Bucky dies...

Quachi cries...

Everyone else cheers...

😂

Deadshot wins...

🙂

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
What? Pac fought Hoya first, so I knew he could hit him. Question, if a boxer throws a punch, and his foe dodges it, did he miss the punch?

Your dodging the question. If Pacquiao hadn't fought Dela Hoya before and was only going to fight him after he already fought Mayweather. Would you then say that Pacquiao will probably miss a lot because he had a hard time hitting Mayweather?

If a boxer launches a punch and the opponent blocked that punch, the aggressor didn't miss, his punch just got blocked.

And if a boxer launches a punch but the opponent ducked out of the way, yes that's a miss but it's a miss attributed to how good the defensive skills of the dodger is as compared to how bad the aim is of the puncher.

In this case, LOM keeps insisting that WS has crappy aim, what I'm trying to say is that him missing is simply due to the defensive capabilities of his targets.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So he in no way injured or harmed batman at all despite the close proximity and the fact Batman didn't have a gun either that he used against him.

So multiple seconds passed before he got a clean shot which means as per the thread WS already has him dead before his shot opens up.

Thanks for conceding the thread to WS.

Your logic is terrible...

Batman attacked him from behind...

Winter Soldier has no surprise element here and will be shot as soon as the bell rings...

13-5...

The evidence has spoken...

Deadshot wins...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Your logic is terrible...

Batman attacked him from behind...

Winter Soldier has no surprise element here and will be shot as soon as the bell rings...

13-5...

The evidence has spoken...

Deadshot wins...

Evidence and the tendencies of the characters have spoken.

Originally posted by Robtard
Why am I not surprised he'd use the Batman scene as another downplay attempt, making what would have been a kill-shot had the armor not been bulletproof is a positive showing for DS.

Don't know why you bother with the ranting fail troll. Downplaying is his only move.

I toy with him as a cat toys with a mouse...

I already know he's beaten...

The forum knows he is beaten (13-5)...

He knows he's beaten as well, but just cant bring himself to admit that a DC character kills one of his favorite Marvel characters...

I'll let this thread die once I've had my fill of destroying him...

🙂