The Outlander vs Darth Vader

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Feats for Outlander that are better than defeating Ezra Bridger?

Vader didn't defeat Ezra. He was unable to get the holocron from him. He failed.

Outlander beating Arcann vs Vader BFR'ing Ahsoka

Originally posted by carthage
He was 'dismantled'after the ship started being hit by that fleet until that point the saber duel pretty close. Arcann starts to lose once he loses his footing.

The fact that he can't keep his footing totally has shit to do with being an inferior combatant and out of balance in literally every way.

Vader wins, he's better than Arcann in everything to begin with.

And so is the Outlander, so, I guess we're back to square one.

Originally posted by carthage
He was 'dismantled'after the ship started being hit by that fleet until that point the saber duel pretty close. Arcann starts to lose once he loses his footing.

Vader wins, he's better than Arcann in everything to begin with.

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Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The fact that he can't keep his footing totally has shit to do with being an inferior combatant and out of balance in literally every way.

And so is the Outlander, so, I guess we're back to square one.

the saber duel was pretty close until the point where the ship is attacked, so unless you have a better argument for why he beats Vader in a duel, kthx for your opinion

He might be more powerful in the force than Arcann per deflecting his blows, but so is Vader so I guess we're back to square one.

Let's be real here. Even assuming the PIS amazeballs against Arcann lightsaber didn't have a role to play in this fight, and assuming the Outlander is completely immune to lightsaber strikes, Vader still has superior telekinesis to best him with and his own dueling skills are good enough to prevent the Outlander from besting him there.

DMB and Carthage joining forces? Unconscionable. 🙂

Lol no

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Let's be real here. Even assuming the PIS amazeballs against Arcann lightsaber didn't have a role to play in this fight, and assuming the Outlander is completely immune to lightsaber strikes, Vader still has superior telekinesis to best him with and his own dueling skills are good enough to prevent the Outlander from besting him there.

I'll probably wait until I personally play it but the Outlanders defense looks pretty nuts now, based on what Arcann was throwing at them. I mean, if they're stronger than Arcann who tanked Valkorions lightning, they can probably tank Vader's TK.

Originally posted by carthage
the saber duel was pretty close until the point where the ship is attacked, so unless you have a better argument for why he beats Vader in a duel, kthx for your opinion

That's nice. Arcann was inferior to the Outlander when the ship was sitting still all the same. The fact that he lost his footing at the climax of a battle doesn't mean everything afterwards was due to that.

He might be more powerful in the force than Arcann per deflecting his blows, but so is Vader so I guess we're back to square one.

You're the one making this argument, but thanks for the support. The Outlander wins because Vader can't do shit to them offensively and has never killed anyone remotely this powerful with TK.
Let's be real here. Even assuming the PIS amazeballs against Arcann lightsaber didn't have a role to play in this fight, and assuming the Outlander is completely immune to lightsaber strikes, Vader still has superior telekinesis to best him with and his own dueling skills are good enough to prevent the Outlander from besting him there.

The lightsaber isn't just good against Arcann, that's a gameplay mechanic. And as soon as Vader's superior TK kills someone, I'll be right on board. Until then, Vader will tire long before the Outlander gets tired of just raising their hand.

Vader's TK won't be a deciding factor against the Outlander. 🙂

Is his TK deciding factor for anything, the best he seems to do is move some big stuff

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'll probably wait until I personally play it but the Outlanders defense looks pretty nuts now, based on what Arcann was throwing at them. I mean, if they're stronger than Arcann who tanked Valkorions lightning, they can probably tank Vader's TK.
Did you miss the part where Arcann brought him to his knees with the Force? Lmao.

^lol. That reminds me of a certain something Malgus did that nobody seems to wank...mmm

Face it, Vader ragdolls. 🙂

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Did you miss the part where Arcann brought him to his knees with the Force? Lmao.

The Outlander was still adjusting to their new power. Afterwards they easily block his lightsaber and tank and spank him into the dirt.

I missed the tanking and spanking but considering the Outlander is just as suprised as Arcann when he does that, it was probably Valkorion's doing. mmm

On the other hand he chose to eat the dirt rather than block Arcann's TK later on, telling.

Effectiveness of Telekinesis is overrated, IMO.

Superiority in Telekinesis does not makes much difference in a fight unless the gap between the combatants is terribly large.

Valkorion was stronger than Revan to a point that Revan's Telekinesis was a moot point in this contest. However, Valkorion needed more than Telekinesis to defeat Revan.

Darth Vader doesn't have any noticeable advantage here.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Face it, Vader ragdolls. 🙂

Like he ragdolled Ahsoka Tano and Luke Skywalker (as of ROTJ)? 🙄

Darth Vader isn't ragdolling a Force-user who is powerful enough to defeat Arcann.

Darth Vader's ability to affect external environment in impressive ways matters little in a contest against another powerful Force-user who can repel Lightsaber strikes and tank Force powers of a Darth Vader TIER opponent.

Face it, you are delusional.