Originally posted by carthage
He was 'dismantled'after the ship started being hit by that fleet until that point the saber duel pretty close. Arcann starts to lose once he loses his footing.
Vader wins, he's better than Arcann in everything to begin with.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The fact that he can't keep his footing totally has shit to do with being an inferior combatant and out of balance in literally every way.And so is the Outlander, so, I guess we're back to square one.
the saber duel was pretty close until the point where the ship is attacked, so unless you have a better argument for why he beats Vader in a duel, kthx for your opinion
He might be more powerful in the force than Arcann per deflecting his blows, but so is Vader so I guess we're back to square one.
Let's be real here. Even assuming the PIS amazeballs against Arcann lightsaber didn't have a role to play in this fight, and assuming the Outlander is completely immune to lightsaber strikes, Vader still has superior telekinesis to best him with and his own dueling skills are good enough to prevent the Outlander from besting him there.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Let's be real here. Even assuming the PIS amazeballs against Arcann lightsaber didn't have a role to play in this fight, and assuming the Outlander is completely immune to lightsaber strikes, Vader still has superior telekinesis to best him with and his own dueling skills are good enough to prevent the Outlander from besting him there.
I'll probably wait until I personally play it but the Outlanders defense looks pretty nuts now, based on what Arcann was throwing at them. I mean, if they're stronger than Arcann who tanked Valkorions lightning, they can probably tank Vader's TK.
Originally posted by carthage
the saber duel was pretty close until the point where the ship is attacked, so unless you have a better argument for why he beats Vader in a duel, kthx for your opinion
He might be more powerful in the force than Arcann per deflecting his blows, but so is Vader so I guess we're back to square one.
Let's be real here. Even assuming the PIS amazeballs against Arcann lightsaber didn't have a role to play in this fight, and assuming the Outlander is completely immune to lightsaber strikes, Vader still has superior telekinesis to best him with and his own dueling skills are good enough to prevent the Outlander from besting him there.
Originally posted by NephthysDid you miss the part where Arcann brought him to his knees with the Force? Lmao.
I'll probably wait until I personally play it but the Outlanders defense looks pretty nuts now, based on what Arcann was throwing at them. I mean, if they're stronger than Arcann who tanked Valkorions lightning, they can probably tank Vader's TK.
Effectiveness of Telekinesis is overrated, IMO.
Superiority in Telekinesis does not makes much difference in a fight unless the gap between the combatants is terribly large.
Valkorion was stronger than Revan to a point that Revan's Telekinesis was a moot point in this contest. However, Valkorion needed more than Telekinesis to defeat Revan.
Darth Vader doesn't have any noticeable advantage here.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Face it, Vader ragdolls. 🙂
Darth Vader isn't ragdolling a Force-user who is powerful enough to defeat Arcann.
Darth Vader's ability to affect external environment in impressive ways matters little in a contest against another powerful Force-user who can repel Lightsaber strikes and tank Force powers of a Darth Vader TIER opponent.
Face it, you are delusional.