The Outlander vs Darth Vader

Started by Sinious5 pages

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I (absolutely) believe that this was not a one-sided confrontation. However, I find your explanation a bit problematic as well.

Based on my play-through, I have come to realize that cut-scenes do not tell us much.

You get to see the opening salvo (in which the [boss] opponent typically dominates the protagonist) and/or the outcome (in which the opponent is on his knees). Sometimes, a glimpse of the turning point in the confrontation (mid-duel) is also shown but this is not common.

The opening salvo gives us the impression that this is not a strictly one-sided confrontation but it can also mislead the audience.

In short, cut-scenes do not tell us the whole story. Yes, we see the Outlander evading one of the TK blasts of Arcann in a cut-scene but this might have been an instinctual response from the Outlander during that particular moment.

Check this out: Legend arguing against the reliability of SWTOR cutscenes.
It is foolish to assume that the Outlander cannot tank Arcann's powers head-on, as formidable as they are. The Outlander eventually defeated Arcann. You can't expect (only) your skills with a Lightsaber to lead you to victory against such a powerful opponent.
I'd say analyzing a fight by ignoring the one material that reveals it due to unwarranted skepticism is incomparably more foolish, and you're making it sound like I said the Outlander had no use of his power or has no power at all. Check again: I said the HoTlander is powerful enough to stand his ground, just not more powerful. Being less powerful doesn't imply that you can't make use of it at all.

Apparently the Outlander was amped when he fought Arcann? It's not as impressive if that's the case.

Vader only wins more decisively, then.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Apparently the Outlander was amped when he fought Arcann? It's not as impressive if that's the case.

Yeah, by 2 sources no less.

Which are these?

Valkorion and his/her lightsaber.

Not sure where to rank him, then.

They're permanent increases.

Bump. Vader wins

Vader kicks his ass

^^^

The Outlander > Revan

Vader in a good fight.