Originally posted by h1a8
Now actually try ADDRESSING my argument without utterly ignoring it and posting things that has nothing to do with what I said.I'll repeat
You claimed that Cap runs at a similar speed as Bucky. These are your own words, now eat them. After all, he couldn't catch up to Bucky and BP after many seconds of running. He gained no ground on Bucky or BP (lost ground actually). Bucky is either faster or equal to Cap in running speed.
I already proved that Bucky traveled the first 40ft in the first 4 seconds. This means it would take Cap more than 4 seconds to reach DS. But I'll satisfy your question at the end.
Another point you didn't address.
DS can raise his gun and fire in about a second. 1 second being "poor performance" is irrelevant and red herring since 1 second is enough. DS can get another shot off in less than a second (as shown). This is enough time. 2 seconds being "poor performance" is red herring since that's enough time to get the job done.
You also didn't respond to this question.
Are you saying that DS wouldn't go for an exposed area when he sees Cap's head and chest is covered by a shield?
Calculating the value to your question is irrelevant if we know that Cap covered the first 40ft distance in about 4 seconds, but I'll do it anyway. It's about distance and time. Thus the speculation (not fact) that the cars were moving 55mph is false. How can one accelerate uniformly to 55mph or more in 4 seconds when they only traveled 40ft in 4 seconds? This is a contradiction. But WE SEE HIM travel 40 feet in 4 seconds. We actually don't know how fast the cars were going. So what we see is stronger than what we speculate. In some scenes the cars appear to be moving at 15mph due to rush hour traffic. Some cars were in front of others by a few feet (almost like traffic jam).
Before we satisfy your question. Let's assume Cap can travel 55mph instantly (infinite acceleration) instead of 4 seconds, but he tops out at 55mph. Then it would take him 2 seconds to get to DS. But since we know it takes him 4 seconds to reach 55mph then he gets to DS in more than 2 seconds.
Now to satisfy your question. I can calculate the exact time it would take Cap to reach DS assuming he can reach 55mph in 4 seconds.
a = v/t = 55mph/4 seconds = 6.1468m/s^2
The distance covered in the first 4 seconds is
d = 1/2at^2 = 1/2(6.1468)(4)^2 = 49.1744m. Although thus contradicts what was shown, it still shows more than 4 seconds to reach DS.
So Cap gets to DS in a little over 4 seconds assuming he can reach top speed in 4 seconds and top out at 55mph.
Lol. Utter garbage. It's funny how you try to ignoring your points when that is the exact same thing you are doing. Hypocrite much?
My argument has always been: "Feats support Cap being capable of defending against gunfire while DS has no showings of bypassing an opponent's defenses when they are actively trying to defend from being shot and actually has a bad showing when it comes to this." You're the one trying to distract from that.
But feel free to toss accusations anytime. I'm sure ppl believe you. 😂
Yes, I said they run at similar top speeds. But we are talking acceleration here (since you brought it up). You DO understand the difference, right Mr "Physics-guy"?
And no, Bucky taking 4 seconds to cross 40 feet hass no bearing on Cap's capabilities as Cap has his own showings.
Here you are trying to downplay Cap's acceleration by using Bucky's showings while trying to distract from the fact that Cap has a pefectly quantifiable showing available within the same scene.
Writer's intent trumps your unsupported ramblings any day. They even used clever cameraplay to conceal/exaggerate their run speeds, which unquestionably. proves the writer's intent.
He was portrayed outpacing cars in a freeway. Cars don't go 10-15 mph in a freeway. Unless you can provide proof that this was not a regular freeway, then cars move at their average speed here by default (45 mph on average). Cry all you want, but that's how it is.
You have a poor understanding of physics and reality in general if you didn't know that acceleration need not be constant. How did it happen to Bucky, you say? Can't say for sure, but if I was to speculate, then it maybe it was because Bucky didn't push himself to top speed right away until he saw them landing as he still kinda had to look to his back at times to see where they are. Ppl can run at different speeds depending on the situation and how hard they push themselves, or didn't you know that? You try running while constantly checking your back and see how easily you are able to attain your top speed.
Chances are, however, that it was most likely done for cinematography reasons, that it is most likely that they couldn't have him be too far ahead so they can show Cap and BP landing behind him from that angle and still have them be clear to the audience. They likely had to slow the cars, as well, for safety reasons.
You didn't answer anything. You came up with your own numbers by ignoring facts. You were unable to discredit ANY of the facts I brought forward and are now REFUSING to do the math (or did you and just refused to show it knowing that it destroys your entire argument?
Now, I'm not a physics major. I'm just a regular joe that loves to argue but using a basic diagram, I was able to come up with 33.333 feet/s2. That means he reaches DS in 2.75 seconds.
Here are the facts:
WS attained top speed at 0:53 (zipping past cars likely going at around 45mph)
Cap was at 0mph at 0:53
Cap and Bucky attained top equal speeds (of 55mph or 80 feet/s).
Bucky had a 40 foot head start (or so you say, but I'll take your word for it)
Cap trailed by a 100 feet by the time he attained top speed of 55mph or 80 ft/s (w/c equaled WS)
Assuming constant acceleration since we have no choice but to assume this as we have no reason to believe his acceleration fluctuated.
And it is not a question of time here, it is a question of the acceleration needed to be able to reach equal top speeds from rest while only losing a set amount of distance.
Here it is in an easy to read diagram for all of us simple laymen:
Bucky @ 0 second (80 ft/s speed, no accel) = 40 feet head start
Bucky @ 1 second (80 ft/s speed, no accel) = 120 feet travelled
Bucky @ 2 seconds (80 ft/s speed, no accel) = 200 feet travelled
Bucky @ 3 seconds (80 ft/s speed, no accel) = 280 feet travelled
Cap @ 1 second (33.33 ft/s speed, 33.33 ft/s2 accel) = 33.33 feet travelled
Cap @ 2 seconds (66.66 ft speed, 33.33 ft/s2 accel) = 100 feet traveled
Cap @ 3 seconds (capped at 80 ft/s, no accel.). = 180 feet travelled
The above diagram is completely consistent with the scene in question as welll, showing that Cap reached top velocity (reaching WS top speed) within 3 seconds (as they were in full speed pursuit by 0:56).
Feel free to correct the above diagram as I am just a humble layman and have little physics expertise but I think we should call Astner as I don't really trust your physics "expertise" at this point with all the crap you just spouted and with your refusal to accept basic facts that you have been unable to refute so far.
PS. You accused me of not reading your post where you stated that you "agreed with me". Yet when called out to post a quote, you have til now failed to do so. You either owe me a quote or an apology.