Obi-Wan kenobi and Qui-Gon Jinn vs Darth Traya and The Exile

If Traya was indeed Arren Kae, then we have a woman who was an equal for Yusanis, who gave Darth Revan a good fight, far before she'd gained immense Sith knowledge and become far more powerful with the dark side.

Yeh, Jinn isn't touching that.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Yusanis, who gave Darth Revan a good fight,

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Originally posted by AncientPower
Yusanis, who gave Darth Revan a good fight

Darth Revan stomped Yusanis though.

Originally posted by Selenial
Yes, using the only part of his style that he could actually feasibly fight with for protracted amount of time is totally not "modifying his style". 🙄

Sure it's a modification. A drastic one with relation to skill? No.

But what are you basing that off, other than feats from a past-prime Qui-Gon? We don't know what he'd be capable of, really, or whether he'd be capable of performing similar feats to her.

We know he's better than Anoon Bondara and worse than Qui-Gon, Dooku and Yoda. I'll admit that's a pretty big range, but unless there's an actual indicator for it, I'm not putting him above Traya. The fact that he can't use as many power strikes doesn't justify him being below Traya and suddenly moving above her.

I don't think one can really argue who's be superior, which is why I said based off feats Team 2 would take sabers...

Unless you have parameters for "prime Qui-Gon", we're just speculating needlessly. Perhaps he would've been better if he could've used more power blows, but that doesn't affect his skill.

Where do you place Traya as a swordsman anyway, tbh?

Where do I place Traya? Hard to say. Above Qui-Gon, though, definitely.

He was stated to have impressive abilities but fell to Revan's powers, implying that he'd be impressive enough to give Revan a good duel.

That just means that Revan slew him in spite of his impressive abilities.

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lmao at AP trying to imply Traya is DR level. 🙂

I'm not implying that at all, but your immediate reaction is noted and logged for further reference. 👆

You straight up said that if Traya was Arren Kae, she was the equal of someone who gave Darth Revan a, "good fight," looooooong before her prime. If that isn't implying that Traya is on the same playing field as DR...then you're retarded. And I don't think you're retarded, so 👆

You think giving someone a good fight equates to being an equal to them? Brakiss was capable of giving Luke an exhausting fight but was no match for him.

They aren't remotely the same thing, and yes I think Darth Traya can give Darth Revan an excellent fight. That is not for the aforementioned reasons, however.

Read both parts of what you yourself said, though:

1. Good fight

2. Looooong before her prime.

Add those two together, and you get what you just stated: you think Darth Traya can give DR an excellent fight/is on the same level as him. To which I say:

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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lmao at AP trying to imply Traya is DR level. 🙂

A good fight, is nowhere near a match, Traya in her prime gives Darth Revan an excellent fight though. You can stop trying to Beni, now.

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Are you even comprehending what I'm saying? I'm being serious here, not mocking.

I'm literally saying that you're implying Darth Traya in her prime can give DR an excellent fight based on her being able to give DR a good fight looooong before her prime as Darth Traya. I'm saying that's retarded.

Traya can give Darth Revan an excellent fight over-all, Force included. Which is definitely not anything like retarded when she is hitting Vader tier Force feats with ease.

Arren Kae being on par with Yusanis in relation to Darth Revan is a sign that her dueling skills in her prime are definitely up to par for beating Jinn in a duel.

Welcome back to the topic, Skillz.

Qui-Gon changed his style to be more strength oriented when he couldn't do all of the acrobatics. His style changed because of his loss of stamina :/

Originally posted by AncientPower
Traya can give Darth Revan an excellent fight over-all, Force included. Which is definitely not anything like retarded when she is hitting Vader tier Force feats .

Christ, you get more retarded with every post.

You're the definition of the word, applying it to others verbatim isn't going to make you any less so.

Trying to apply your own personal rankings>>> Vader having vastly superior force feats to Traya

Get back to your short bus

Somewhat contending with Maul and besting a candidate for "the greatest Jedi duelist in history" > beating Atton Rand.

Besides, if Jinn dies in sabers, Obi picks up his saber and gives them the Florrum treatment.

The 'Florrum treatment' lmao