Valkorion vs DE Sidious

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Valkorion vs DE Sidious

I realize this has definitely been done before, but I wanna see how many people agree with my newfound opinion of Valkorion.

Sabers
Force
All Out

Takes place in Valkoiron's Throne Room.

Valkorion.

Dunno why you bothered with a sabers portion though.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Valkorion.

Dunno why you bothered with a sabers portion though.

Neither am I, guess it's just a habit at this point.

Sidious.

Originally posted by MythLord
Sidious.

Who knows?

Logically, Valkorion. Feat wise, toss-up, or maybe Sids 'cause Force storms. Holistic representations - Sidious if we take of those "best sith" quotes at face-value, but some argue Valkorion isn't Sith, so we're essentially back to square one again. That aside, both are evenly seen as a galaxy level threats, so they're pretty much even there, too.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Who knows?

Logically, Valkorion. Feat wise, toss-up, or maybe Sids 'cause Force storms. Holistic representations - Sidious if we take of those "best sith" quotes at face-value, but some argue Valkorion isn't Sith, so we're essentially back to square one again. That aside, both are evenly seen as a galaxy level threats, so they're pretty much even there, too.

That's the whole reason I did this, to see what people thought pretty much. I don't see Valk as Sith, he himself says he isn't Sith.

Personally I think Valkorion, as both of them are pretty equal in terms of their Force abilities. Valkorion however has better freedom as a spirit, if his body dies he can continue fighting and using his full power (or close to it); as evidenced in "Visions in the Dark". Sidious, based on what I've seen, can't use much of his power as a spirit; if any at all. So he's borderline helpless. If Sidious' physical body dies then he's pretty much done, but if Valk's body dies he can keep going. But I wanted to see what other people thought.

Valkorion in everything but sabers.

Originally posted by MythLord
Sidious.
Originally posted by MythLord
Sidious.

Currently I give a slight edge to Palpatine, but season 2 of KOTFE might change that.

Leaning with Sheev slightly

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Currently I give a slight edge to Palpatine, but season 2 of KOTFE might change that.
Even despite Valkorion's abilities as a spirit?

What are you referring to in particular?

His ability to utterly dominate the Outlander and flow-walk as a spirit. Valkorion is obviously not greatly weakened as a spirit. So logically, if his physical body dies he can keep fighting, because his powers aren't restricted as a ghost. Sidious can become a spirit, but he's useless as one. Valkorion essentially has infinite chances unless Sidious can banish him to Chaos.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Valkorion in everything but sabers.

"Note on "Force Storms": The Emperor can't create Force Storms at will. They are in fact a phenomenon that occurs rarely, when the minds of two great Force users meet and struggle with each other at a distance." - Tom Veitch

Source

mmm

Spoiler:
Lucky that other canon sources say otherwise.

Good interview though. Pretty interesting that the idea of the original villain was basically Kylo Ren and Lucas nixed the idea. I was always under the impression that Veitch intended to bring the real Vader back and not just the costume.

Originally posted by ares834
"Note on "Force Storms": The Emperor can't create Force Storms at will. They are in fact a phenomenon that occurs rarely, when the minds of two great Force users meet and struggle with each other at a distance." - Tom Veitch

Source

mmm

Spoiler:
Lucky that other canon sources say otherwise.

Good interview though. Pretty interesting that the idea of the original villain was basically Kylo Ren and Lucas nixed the idea. I was always under the impression that Veitch intended to bring the real Vader back and not just the costume.

I was under the impression that it took time and concentration to create one of those Force Storms. He can just create them on a whim?

I think it just takes a bit of effort to actually control them?