Valkorion vs DE Sidious

He doesn't even have to be Yoda tier for Valkorion to be DE Sidious level.

But if he was Yoda tier, that would put Valkorion significantly above even DE Sidious.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
He doesn't even have to be Yoda tier for Valkorion to be DE Sidious level.

Originally posted by Trocity
But if he was Yoda tier, that would put Valkorion significantly above even DE Sidious.

Now you're getting it.

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Revan as of the novel is in Yoda's tier, as of SoR Revan is a hair below Yoda and ROTS Sidious; but only because their saber skills are >> Revan's.

Oh dear.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Revan as of the novel is in Yoda's tier, as of SoR Revan is a hair below Yoda and ROTS Sidious; but only because their saber skills are >> Revan's.

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One should hope so, because the idea that Revan is Yoda tier is laughable. smile

And the most retarded post of the thread goes to our friend here. The TOR fanboys never fail to disappoint. 🙂

Originally posted by AncientPower
Should be interesting to see the cancer that ensues on CV because of me.

I like that post. 🙂🙂🙂

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Laughable that Reborn Revan is Yoda tier? The only thing laughable is putting Yoda on that level.

To address the OP, Palpatine has superior TK (being able to crack the foundations of a 3x2km building with a thought and being far more powerful than TK powerhouses Vader + Starkiller); superior Force lightning (one shotting Anakin, Marek, Vader etc. overloading Yoda's tutanimis); superior telepathy (mentally dominating the minds of DE Luke & Vader with ease, erasing the memories of millions on Coruscant); logically superior drainage powers (being more powerful than Nihilus, more powerful than Plagueis who mused himself capable of all known powers of the ancient Sith) and superior destructive powers, read world killing, SSD busting Force storms. Valkorion has better feats in alchemy and immortality, but Sheev takes home the lion's share of combat applicable powers. He wins as usual.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
To address the OP, Palpatine has superior TK (being able to crack the foundations of a 3x2km building with a thought and being far more powerful than TK powerhouses Vader + Starkiller); superior Force lightning (one shotting Anakin, Marek, Vader etc. overloading Yoda's tutanimis); superior telepathy (mentally dominating the minds of DE Luke & Vader with ease, erasing the memories of millions on Coruscant); logically superior drainage powers (being more powerful than Nihilus, more powerful than Plagueis who mused himself capable of all known powers of the ancient Sith) and superior destructive powers, read world killing, SSD busting Force storms. Valkorion has better feats in alchemy and immortality, but Sheev takes home the lion's share of combat applicable powers. He wins as usual.

Hmm...

How is Valk's immortality better? Aren't they just the same thing? Only Sidious had to keep hopping bodies due to them wasting away by how powerful he was?

I mean both of them went through different bodies, but the only thing I notice that's any different is that Valk was in his bodies longer, but this was just due to him being a reclusive shut-in as Vitiate and Valk was just like...an empty shell until needed and then becoming a hijacking body spirit in the Outlander or whatever.

When did he one-shot Anakin?

Regardless, being far superior to Revan in TK > a non-feat and supposedly being better than Vader without ever showing so, considering that was far from Vitiates best incarnation.

And Valkorion is solidly better than Sidious in lightning, being infinitely greater than Nyriss, overloading Revan's tutaminis, curbstomping the TOR-team and his lightshow against Arcann.

Lol @ Sidious > Valkorion in TP. Full cancer.

Terrible ABC argument for drain. Valkorion has lightyears better feats. Sidious has never even shown a combat variant for drain afaik.

Valkorion's demonstrated destructive feats are superior.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Hmm...

How is Valk's immortality better? Aren't they just the same thing? Only Sidious had to keep hopping bodies due to them wasting away by how powerful he was?

I mean both of them went through different bodies, but the only thing I notice that's any different is that Valk was in his bodies longer, but this was just due to him being a reclusive shut-in as Vitiate and Valk was just like...an empty shell until needed and then becoming a hijacking body spirit in the Outlander or whatever.

Valkorion didn't need any help from sith spirits to survive death and return, despite how weakened he was. He's also got multiple-bodies and planetary-possession over him.

Originally posted by Nephthys
When did he one-shot Anakin?

Lol pretty sure he's referring to the illusion. 😂

In a wet dream of mine yeah, I'd like to think it legit. 🙂

@Neph, how is Sidious "supposedly" better than Vader lol? His superiority is firmly established. And out of curiosity on what grounds does Valkoriate >> Revan in TK? And more specifically, which incarnation?

That entirely depends on how great you think Nyriss is or how literally you interpret hyperbole, suffice to say I disagree with you there. However Yoda just so happens to be (much) better than all of those names.

We've been on that merrigoround already, even LeG was left flailing. 😉

Neither has Valkorion, so what's your point?

I'm sure, I mean he blew up T3 amrite?

Sidious was legitimately dismantled by Luke and Leia's combined effort to Sever his force connection, his demonstrably lackluster Force defences mean that even child Vitiate has a decent shot at taking him by cutting off his Force connection.

Originally posted by Nephthys

Valkorion didn't need any help from sith spirits to survive death and return, despite how weakened he was. He's also got multiple-bodies and planetary-possession over him.

When were Sith spirits involved with Palps return?

Plaps also had multiple bodies? They were clones sure, but then Palps also shown the ability to hijack living bodies too.

@Wolf, I believe that's been retconned. It's stated in the CSWE that he escape through "sheer force of will."

But yeah I sort of agree, on paper Valkorion appears better but in reality that's not necessarily the case.