Valkorion vs DE Sidious

Started by Tondemonai4 pages

Can he create them? Yes. Can he controll them? With very intense concentration.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
I think it just takes a bit of effort to actually control them?
He didn't even achieve full control though, only partial control. So it must have required a lot more effort than the comic implied.

****, if Sheev can't control them no one can

He had full control by DE, lmfao. He was able to summon several ones in different star systems without losing control. The only evidence that people who claim he had lacked control have are quotes from him prior to RotJ, and him apparently losing control in DE II when it was actually Luke and Leia's Force Harmony that caused him to lose control.

rightio

Valky vs Sidious in lightning only would be interesting.

Originally posted by SunRazer
He had full control by DE, lmfao. He was able to summon several ones in different star systems without losing control. The only evidence that people who claim he had lacked control have are quotes from him prior to RotJ, and him apparently losing control in DE II when it was actually Luke and Leia's Force Harmony that caused him to lose control.
Wasn't aware he had full control. That makes it more impressive for sure.

Originally posted by Sinious
Valky vs Sidious in lightning only would be interesting.
That would be a hell of a show.

Very bright.

^^^Recommend bringing sunglasses to that fight.

Valkorion was recovering from his two Voice deaths on Voss and Belsavis, both of which occurred only after his power had been put into a galaxy spanning ritual.

He returns as a disembodied entity on Yavin IV, where he is resurrected by the Revanite War. He is specifically stated to not have returned at full power by Satele Shan.

On Ziost, the disembodied Vitiate possessed thousands of Jedi and Sith, an unprecedented mental domination feat, whilst creating the immortal and most powerful Sith alchemical creations ever known to the mythos, the Monoliths.

He caused mass death to fuel his weakened state and then vastly increased his own powers by draining all living things on Ziost, where no ritual is ever stated to take place. As confirmed by Valkorion himself in KOTFE, this acted as a permanent increase to his immense powers and enlightened his state of being.

This is all whilst he is maintaining a mental block on the powers of Vaylin who has trashed skyscraper sized buildings with telekinesis.

He is incapable of death, he isn't like Palpatine who required ancient Sith spirits to guide his spirit across the Cosmos to Byss. He easily trascends into a state of a disembodied will when killed by either the Outlander or Arcann. He isn't like Krayt Reborn where you throw him into a sun and he dies permanently, Valkorion confirmed others have attempted that before and evidently failed.

It is almost laughable, in all honesty, in the novel, Revan is capable of fairly easily absorbing and reflecting the Force lightning storm of Darth Nyriss, reducing her to ash through her own Force barrier. The power this lightning has displayed, is of far greater feats than that of Count Dooku's. Yoda was stated to be capable of absorbing Count Dooku's lightning, but 'far from easily', as stated in AOTC.

So Revan is capable of absorbing and unleashing a more powerful Force lightning storm than the Force lightning burst which Yoda had difficulty absorbing. When Revan faced Vitiate, Vitiate was attacking Revan with a gathered Force lightning storm described as 'infinitely' more powerful than that of Darth Nyriss', a Force lightning storm from Vitiate that had Revan on the floor, overwhelmed and physically paralysed.

Vitiate becomes far more powerful than this by the time of Star Wars The Old Republic, easily capable of two shotting Master Tol Braga, the Hero of Tython, Master Warren Sedoru, and Master Kiwiiks at once.

Vitiate then is permanently empowered and fueled by the power of an immense dark side nexus in Ziost, all of it's flora and fauna, as well as all of the Force users on the planet.

Valkorion confirms this greatly expanded his mind and powers, so he's far more powerful as a Sith Entity than he was as Vitiate. As I've just stated, far more powerful than when he overwhelmed and paralysed a Yoda tier Jedi Master in Revan Reborn.

As of Revenge of the Sith, Master Yoda is confirmed to be as powerful as Darth Sidious due to his knowledge of the Force.

I'm sure DE Sidious stomps that, top KEK.

Should be interesting to see the cancer that ensues on CV because of me.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Should be interesting to see the cancer that ensues on CV because of me.
I'm stealing this quote for a debate I'm in right now.

Credit me, Ant and Skillz.

Kidding.

I mean, I could credit you guys if you wanted.

Kulvax, I guess it should be formally established I have no beef with you as it stands, and like you as an ally (although we have clear differences with the Avellone shit), and hopefully you feel sort of similar feelings. mmm

I already posted that in the thread you wanted to steal it for.

Originally posted by AncientPower
I already posted that in the thread you wanted to steal it for.
I just saw, lol

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Kulvax, I guess it should be formally established I have no beef with you as it stands, and like you as an ally (although we have clear differences with the Avellone shit), and hopefully you feel sort of similar feelings. mmm

Certainly, I'm two years done with all that.

"a Yoda tier master in Revan Reborn" 😆

It's true. estahuh