Darth Vader and Exar Kun vs. SWTOR Vitiate

Started by UCanShootMyNova7 pages

Honestly just bring up the points you find relevant and I'll counter them from there.

If you'd really like though I can give you a comprehensive post over PM.

Watch out, benny's going to give you an essay and then declare it unequivocal fact.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
And now I know why people tell me you're a shit debater. You aren't even bothering to address the point instead focusing on posting errors which I fixed a second later.

F*ck off.

Edit: F*ck you twice actually. You cut my original post anyways @sshole.

Me pointing out that you literally edited portions of my post is a burn on me?

Well, congrats I guess.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Watch out, benny's going to give you an essay and then declare it unequivocal fact.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Honestly just bring up the points you find relevant and I'll counter them from there.

If you'd really like though I can give you a comprehensive post over PM.

PM me tbh.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan

This am belonging to me now.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
PM me tbh.

I can't. You gotta PM me.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Me pointing out that you literally edited portions of my post is a burn on me?

Well, congrats I guess.

No it means you are butthurt.

What do you call this if not Dun Möch?

"I don't need to hate you in order to beat you," he gasped. "That's something I will teach you now."

"I don't hate you," the apprentice went on, blocking him blow for blow. "I pity you."

"You destroyed who I was and made me as I am now, but this wasn't your idea. It was the Emperor's, and it's what he's already done to you."

"You are his creature just as I was yours-but you've never had the strength to rebel. That's why I pity you. I will no longer serve a monster, and if I have my way I'll make sure you don't, either."

"I will kill you," he said, "to set you free."

Tbh I don't actually care what you call it. You just gona come up with another shit tier reply. I'm tired to go on in circles with your pathetic argument.

I don't think that's Dun Moch. Or at least not intentional Dun Moch.

I think it's simply him stating his intentions to Vader and he's having greater success because he's let go of his hatred as it states in the text.

In either case I find it highly unlikely that Vader's going to let statements like that get to him and affect his performance.

Called it.

That's definitely Dun Moch, or Inverse Dun Moch. Also, "statements like that" very clearly affected his performance. 👆

I'm just reading the graphic novel now, and honestly, Galen marek is a shitty duelist. The dude can barely even overpower an imperial guard without his Force abilties: damn

Originally posted by NewGuy01
That's definitely Dun Moch, or Inverse Dun Moch. Also, "statements like that" very clearly affected his performance. 👆
Quite, and Dun Moch is not a power exclusive to the dark side.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
That's definitely Dun Moch, or Inverse Dun Moch. Also, "statements like that" very clearly affected his performance. 👆

Look at the text.

"I don't need to hate you in order to beat you," he gasped. "That's something I will teach you now."

"You can teach me nothing," Darth Vader's leaden voice intoned. One black glove clenched, and for a moment the apprentice's throat closed tight.

He beat back the telekinetic attack with one of his own, shoving his Master in the chest with the force of a small explosion, throwing Darth Vader backward across the room.

For all his size and occasional clumsiness, the Dark Lord was sure on his feet. He landed upright and launched himself back into the fray.

"I don't hate you," the apprentice went on, blocking him blow for blow. "I pity you." With a new strength of his own, he forced Darth Vader onto his back foot." - The Force Unleashed.

It says WITH A NEW STRENGTH OF HIS OWN he manages to push Vader onto his back foot. It make no mention of Vader weakening, and why would he?

All Galen's said by this point is "I pity you." And "I'm going to teach you something."

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
I'm just reading the graphic novel now, and honestly, Galen marek is a shitty duelist. The dude can barely even overpower an imperial guard without his Force abilties: damn

Or it's indicative of the skill of the Imperial Guard he faced? :/

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Look at the text.

"I don't need to hate you in order to beat you," he gasped. "That's something I will teach you now."

"You can teach me nothing," Darth Vader's leaden voice intoned. One black glove clenched, and for a moment the apprentice's throat closed tight.

He beat back the telekinetic attack with one of his own, shoving his Master in the chest with the force of a small explosion, throwing Darth Vader backward across the room.

For all his size and occasional clumsiness, the Dark Lord was sure on his feet. He landed upright and launched himself back into the fray.

"I don't hate you," the apprentice went on, blocking him blow for blow. "I pity you." [b]With a new strength of his own, he forced Darth Vader onto his back foot." - The Force Unleashed.

It says WITH A NEW STRENGTH OF HIS OWN he manages to push Vader onto his back foot. It make no mention of Vader weakening, and why would he?

All Galen's said by this point is "I pity you." And "I'm going to teach you something." [/B]

The fact that he "tried to pull away" suggests otherwise tbh.

And if some petty taunts ticked Vader off, why wouldn't these hard hitting burns unbalance him?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
The fact that he "tried to pull away" suggests otherwise tbh.

And if some petty taunts ticked Vader off, why wouldn't these hard hitting burns unbalance him?

Do you mean in the text I provided or somewhere else?

"Hard hitting burns." I don't know if that was a pun about Mustafar but I'll say bravo nonetheless.

The comment that ticked Vader off was the "Was that how your father treated you?"

Everything else slid right off his back.

That's why I pity you. I will no longer serve a monster, and if I have my way I'll make sure you don't, either."

Vader tried to pull away, but the apprentice followed him, keeping him on the back foot.

And exactly, it was a petty and empty taunt, yet Vader effected Vader, so why when Marek's taunts actually have meaning, he not be effected? I'm seeing no evidence that suggests these "slid right off his back" as you claim.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Or it's indicative of the skill of the Imperial Guard he faced? :/

What a Cicrle jerk. In the Graphic novel at least, he has no real dueling feats that establish him as a master warrior. Even the Proxxy droid basically forces him to use his Lightning when taking on the Kenobi model - despite being far weaker than Kenobi himself.