Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Ahsoka doesn't have allies like the Rebel Alliance and benefactors lik Bail Organa.Except there's no evidence that he regained his skill and it's far more likely his performance is based off his growth in power.
Except for it being logical that he did given the circumstances as I explained above.
Except the logical fact that the against process weakens your physical body.
What do Ahsoka's Rebel allies have to do with her Saber skills? You're making zero sense.
What do you mean there's no evidence he regained his skill? You're telling me he never showed any skill in TCW? Or in Rebels? Where's your evidence that this was inferior to his skill level in TPM?
Marco/Erkan messaged the writer of Shadow Conspiracy who confirmed Maul improved in Every Way. Despite doing nothing but eating Junk for over a decade. Which means he not only regained his skill but improved on it in literally a matter of months.
And yet now you ignore the Evidence from Maul's past and claim for no reason that his skill has declined while he's been spending much better use of his time, building new Sabers and searching for new ways to destroy the Sith? That's called ignoring evidence from the characters past.
The reasons for the growth in Maul's power still exist and have in fact been magnified. Again evidence is on my side.
Looking at every other Jedi/Sith combatant sans perhaps Old Ben, Maul's age should not be a factor. So again the evidence is all against you. All you have is biased speculation.
Now again Rebels may go and contradict past evidences. But Logic dictates to follow those evidences until the time inconsistencies crop up.
The fact that she can be more easily provided with secure locations by them in places where she can pull out her saber and practice then Maul who would be on the run from Imperials.
My evidence is the logical degradation of skill that occurs when they're not used. Can you provide the quote for Maul improving in every way please?
I'm saying that while he should have been able to practice his saber skills on Malachor in the Sith temple we have no idea how long he was there for and outside of that place there are very few areas he could simply pull out his lit saber and begin practicing katas in.
The reason Maul had such a growth in power was because he wanted revenge on Kenobi for stealing away 2 decades of his life and his master for shunting him to the side. The difference between TCW Maul and Rebels Maul is that Maul has been humbled and knows he's incapable of defeating ghe Emperor's enforcer let alone Sidious himself. He's also lost all of his allies and is being constantly hunted down by the Empire, I can't imagine he has much drive other then to survive and if he gets the chance to strike a blow at his former master and Vader which at his point he should be incapable of what with the destruction of the Sith super weapon. This isn't even mentioning he likely believes his old nemesis Kenobi to be dead one of the main drives he had in TCW.
Age IS a factor. While many Force users remain in great physical condition that does not mean they aren't physically weaker then they would be in their prime ages ( I.E. RotJ Luke is going to be physically superior to Apocalypse Luke on a base level despite the latter being a vastly superior as a combatant ).
Pat evidences don't contradict any of my claims. Older Force users have never shown been shown to be physically superior on a base level when out of their prime. They make up for degrading physical ability via force augmentation.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
The fact that she can be more easily provided with secure locations by them in places where she can pull out her saber and practice then Maul who would be on the run from Imperials.
This is not a fact or any kind of good explanation in your favour.
What you're basically saying is all that Maul or Ahsoka need to improve is time alone in a room. Which would almost certainly guarantee they've both improved.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
My evidence is the logical degradation of skill that occurs when they're not used. Can you provide the quote for Maul improving in every way please?
Funny you've said your "evidence", yet provided none.
The statement from Shadow Conspiracy of Maul having improved since TPM when facing Sidious.
Erkan/Marco posted an email from the author where he confirmed Maul improved in every way. He posted that email in many threads but I'm not looking for it now.
You can always PM him though.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I'm saying that while he should have been able to practice his saber skills on Malachor in the Sith temple we have no idea how long he was there for and outside of that place there are very few areas he could simply pull out his lit saber and begin practicing katas in.
This is speculation, and not an argument for either side. What you're still lacking is Evidence.
Evidence that Ahsoka was training, but Maul wasn't.
Evidence that Maul degraded in Force abilities.
Evidence that age has degraded Maul's abilities.
Evidence, Evidence, Evidence.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
The reason Maul had such a growth in power was because he wanted revenge on Kenobi for stealing away 2 decades of his life and his master for shunting him to the side. The difference between TCW Maul and Rebels Maul is that Maul has been humbled and knows he's incapable of defeating ghe Emperor's enforcer let alone Sidious himself. He's also lost all of his allies and is being constantly hunted down by the Empire, I can't imagine he has much drive other then to survive and if he gets the chance to strike a blow at his former master and Vader which at his point he should be incapable of what with the destruction of the Sith super weapon. This isn't even mentioning he likely believes his old nemesis Kenobi to be dead one of the main drives he had in TCW.
Maul's increase in power was due to his rage. His Rage is now greater than ever.
Maul was always out of his league against Sidious, and he was always in hiding. Or have you forgotten the Jedi were hunting him during TCW?
He might have to work even more underground now, and he MAY have left some of his prior motivation behind by being beat down. And that is the ONLY possible reason why Maul may be weaker. And frankly the only valid point been brought to your cause here, so you should really stick to this point more than going off on random
However, as soon as he met Ezra, as soon as his appearance on Rebels got going, that motivation, focus and purpose all seemed to come back pretty quickly.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Age IS a factor. While many Force users remain in great physical condition that does not mean they aren't physically weaker then they would be in their prime ages ( I.E. RotJ Luke is going to be physically superior to Apocalypse Luke on a base level despite the latter being a vastly superior as a combatant ).
Key point here is that Old Luke is Vastly more powerful than ROTJ Luke. If Maul's not improved then it suggests his powers in the Force were not advanced enough which I'm not willing to buy.
Maul was always powerhouse and a force prodigy. Even if he's not vastly improved like Luke did, and like Mace did, and like Dooku did and like Vader did.... Even still he wouldn't just weaken for no reason apparent reason.
You see I'm actually a far bigger fan of Maul, and have massive more respect for him than your Troll pal Quanchi does. Difference is I'm not a Fanboy, living in denial and constantly ignoring/twisting the facts and evidences in favour of my preferred character.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Pat evidences don't contradict any of my claims. Older Force users have never shown been shown to be physically superior on a base level when out of their prime. They make up for degrading physical ability via force augmentation.
Already addressed.
Maul's past shows Rebels Maul will be =/> than he was in TCW.
"No because I said so."
There. I've saved everyone in this thread from rewriting the Encyclopedia Britannica several times over for no ****ing reason. Just write those five words every time you reply. Might even make a ton more sense than most of the "He def declined" arguments going on in this thread.
Honestly I really don't care to continue this. All of this is pretty much pointless considering the Ahsoka novel is going to be uploaded to Ewok soon. While I go by logical assumption of what occurred where we do not have actual knowledge, it's not relevant since we're about to find out exactly what happened in this time span via aforementioned novel. If questions you and I posed remain unanswered by the book I'll come back to address your stances but until then go on your merry way.