Aquaman Vs Iron Man fist fight

Originally posted by JayDaDon
If you're referring to their scuffle in Iluminati, that wasn't extremis. The visual difference between the pentagon armor and the extremis armor is clear to anyone who has read even the Extremis storyline. That meeting was around the start of new avengers where Tony wore the Pentagon armor for a large chunk of that time until the extremis story happened.

And yeah, Sentry was trying to neutralize Tony. He was even given the order to kill him. He hit him with full intent to shut him down and maybe even kill him and Tony walked away without one scratch.

Black Bolt has made it malfunction with a whisper which Namor was being slightly pushed back by.

Regardless bring up an instance where he took an attack another high tier couldn't?

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
The only time I remember Arthur and Powergirl getting into any battle is when Powergirl was Eclipso possessed which is an amp.

Yeah, and she was still far below Superman level. Kilowog contained her along with wonder woman easily.

Fight comparison though I remember Powergirl getting dominated by Tiamat who Aquaman beat and called his grab on Arthur a "little love squeeze"

Power Girl was depowered back in JLE 9 and didn't become a full fledged class 100 until JSA.

Nothing in the Amazo instance suggest off panel fighting other then the moment when Amazo first showed up with Steel, Huntress, Wonder Woman and even then we don't know how many hits they took.

So simply lying now, eh? Wonder Woman got back up as well.

Aquaman never did. He was oneshotted along with Zauriel and never got up.

And when Oracle watched the fight Amazo was fighting League and Superman's face wasn't busted up like at the end.

When Atom arrives, the entire league is down and only Superman is standing.

So yes, there was more off panel fight.

So I'm going on panel.
On panel we see Aquaman swung into Zauriel which implies force into Amazo and then tossed to the ground. Whereas we only see in regards to the first hit on Diana that she gets backhanded, and Superman on panel only taking 3 hits. If your going to imply that they had a "linger offpanel fight" that should be an all around thing and not pick a character to decide who had it,

He was knocked out in the swing and remained that way. Diana and Superman both got hit more than that.

6th page of this linked battle Superman is down for awhile I know he gets back up but regardless he's down. http://m.imgur.com/a/hW5MJ

Are you serious here? Superman immediately joins the fight and the Amazo he fought then was far more powerful than the Amazo Aquaman fought.

Zauriel has divine armor. So yeah he has durability.

Not even near to class 100.

I'm pretty sure rookie Hal has feats against Sinestro which is part of his origin. He also took a nuke during Emerald Dawn. Hal was loosing concentration because of the pressure which is a durability thing..

No, its a concentration thing. If he was koed by that pressure and Arthur wasn't, it would've meant something.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, and she was still far below Superman level. Kilowog contained her along with wonder woman easily.

Power Girl was depowered back in JLE 9 and didn't become a full fledged class 100 until JSA.

So simply lying now, eh? Wonder Woman got back up as well.

Aquaman never did. He was oneshotted along with Zauriel and never got up.

And when Oracle watched the fight Amazo was fighting League and Superman's face wasn't busted up like at the end.

When Atom arrives, the entire league is down and only Superman is standing.

So yes, there was more off panel fight.

He was knocked out in the swing and remained that way. Diana and Superman both got hit more than that.

Are you serious here? Superman immediately joins the fight and the Amazo he fought then was far more powerful than the Amazo Aquaman fought.

Not even near to class 100.

No, its a concentration thing. If he was koed by that pressure and Arthur wasn't, it would've meant something.

I never suggested Wonder Woman or Superman didn't get back up the fact is they weren't standing the entire time like you implied Superman's face got busted up in the 4th page that you posted in the bottom panel. We don't see his left eye because of the way he's positioned though.

Aquaman took 2 attacks initially being swung into Zauriel and then being tossed to the ground.

Count the amount of times Diana got hit on panel then? The problem is you cant your going on assumption not backed up by anything but bias and what sounds logical to you.

Lifting a City block would make him class 100. To even support the Amazo showing he did better Detroit Era against Amazo then J'onn who got oneshotted by Amazo's Superbreath. Also would make him class 100 by powersclaing.

Powergirl being depowered doesn't change the fact being possessed by Eclipso is an amp... an unknown one at that in her case,

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I find that hard to believe given Boundless a Flash knockoff tore apart Tony's armor,

Black Bolt has made it malfunction with a whisper which Namor was being slightly pushed back by.

Regardless bring up an instance where he took an attack another high tier couldn't?

2 instances where neither were the extremis suit. Not all suits are equal. Also don't try to present one of the lowest showings of Black bolt's voice ever as some average.

Atom Rocked in that Amazo story. One of his best portrayals.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I never suggested Wonder Woman or Superman didn't get back up the fact is they weren't standing the entire time like you implied Superman's face got busted up in the 4th page that you posted in the bottom panel. We don't see his left eye because of the way he's positioned though.

You said this.

He lasted longer then Diana against Amazo in JL#27

Taking a hit and slam from Amazo passing out and then getting back up the next page to take another hit and pass out.

That never happened.

And yes, Diana and Superman were fighting Amazo which was more powerful than the Amazo Arthur fought and lasted longer.

It is not a feat for Aquaman, no manner you distort it.

Aquaman took 2 attacks initially being swung into Zauriel and then being tossed to the ground.

He was thrown in the water after getting koed. He didn't take two attacks before getting koed.

Learn how to read comics.

Count the amount of times Diana got hit on panel then? The problem is you cant your going on assumption not backed up by anything but bias and what sounds logical to you.

She is attacked thrice by the normal powered Amazo and again with more powerful Amazo.

Lifting a City block would make him class 100.

No, it wouldn't. Class 100 system doesn't works on how much you can lift.

To even support the Amazo showing he did better Detroit Era against Amazo then J'onn who got oneshotted by Amazo's Superbreath. Also would make him class 100 by powersclaing.

J'onn is a little ***** who gets koed by everything. Even a normal human recovered faster than him in the same scene struck by the same superbreath attack and normal humans were taking the superbreath attacks.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wM5Gl0obvPA/VuOGrv2rV6I/AAAAAAAACiY/N6cTZ6xgf9EVxYC05fu4EMTZlEa-CEXdwCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO031.jpg
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And Amazo casually koed Aquaman anyway.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ncUQbvJuhkc/VuOHLfWAX0I/AAAAAAAACog/2y_TpJYF_fI0dcblWJnmQS38EptbX1QJwCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO020.jpg
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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ik3_BllFVNc/VuOHL2SZjUI/AAAAAAAACog/EcclHjIeiQQajBHe00DgME-7uD6vi9xlACCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO023.jpg
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Powergirl being depowered doesn't change the fact being possessed by Eclipso is an amp... an unknown one at that in her case,

She was weaker than the likes of Mon-el and Superman and around the level of Wonder Woman as shown in the Eclipso 2.

Aquaman was like two steps below that level. Eclipso amp didn't make you like twice as strong or something like that.

Aquaman was class 60. At best. Deal with it.

Haha

Originally posted by abhilegend
You said this.

That never happened.

And yes, Diana and Superman were fighting Amazo which was more powerful than the Amazo Arthur fought and lasted longer.

It is not a feat for Aquaman, no manner you distort it.

He was thrown in the water after getting koed. He didn't take two attacks before getting koed.

Learn how to read comics.

She is attacked thrice by the normal powered Amazo and again with more powerful Amazo.

No, it wouldn't. Class 100 system doesn't works on how much you can lift.

J'onn is a little ***** who gets koed by everything. Even a normal human recovered faster than him in the same scene struck by the same superbreath attack and normal humans were taking the superbreath attacks.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wM5Gl0obvPA/VuOGrv2rV6I/AAAAAAAACiY/N6cTZ6xgf9EVxYC05fu4EMTZlEa-CEXdwCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO031.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-x2uPQvv8EzU/VuOG2II78pI/AAAAAAAACmM/fzakHd0nehEcn8r-vODq7HbdtQLfSVW7gCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO015.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-INHCuWt-KzQ/VuOHLSqLZNI/AAAAAAAACog/VcZM4uWwbncRo4E-tOOlxKAz1c9qM8hJACCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO019.jpg

And Amazo casually koed Aquaman anyway.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ncUQbvJuhkc/VuOHLfWAX0I/AAAAAAAACog/2y_TpJYF_fI0dcblWJnmQS38EptbX1QJwCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO020.jpg
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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ik3_BllFVNc/VuOHL2SZjUI/AAAAAAAACog/EcclHjIeiQQajBHe00DgME-7uD6vi9xlACCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO023.jpg
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She was weaker than the likes of Mon-el and Superman and around the level of Wonder Woman as shown in the Eclipso 2.

Aquaman was like two steps below that level. Eclipso amp didn't make you like twice as strong or something like that.

Aquaman was class 60. At best. Deal with it.

I didn't even notice the Dale Gunn thing.. Regardless MMH was KOd by Amazo and still was at the brunt of the attack.

Same attack shown to destroy the city of Vancouver as well in the same comic His Heatvision also destroyed a town. You know what Heatvision did to a Class 100 at Marvel? It decapitated them. Aquaman being KO'd by that isn't bad.
Blitzing Amazo and getting to admit he felt pain isn't bad at all.

"You hurt me" "Good that was the plan" Aquaman being KO'd by Heatvision isn't a bad thing especially since he got up not long later before Vixen even who was KOd before him.

I suggested Aquaman took more hits then Diana before they initially went dpwn. Getting back up faster is a regen/stamina thing not a durability. You've yet to even say how many hits Superman and Wonder Woman got yet your suggesting I should learn how to read comics. When your making assumptions that aren't even shown or supported by the comic.

Stuff like Aquaman surviving a beating from a guy who oneshotted Superman also reaffirms he's higher then your suggesting..

http://m.imgur.com/Gm7jV7D

Given Titus could do stuff like this
http://m.imgur.com/a/Z4l7f

Originally posted by riv6672
Atom Rocked in that Amazo story. One of his best portrayals.

He was pretty cool in DK3 despite it all :'(

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I didn't even notice the Dale Gunn thing.. Regardless MMH was KOd by Amazo and still was at the brunt of the attack.

And that makes J'onn look bad instead of Arthur looking good who was easily koed by Amazo too.

Same attack shown to destroy the city of Vancouver as well in the same comic His Heatvision also destroyed a town. You know what Heatvision did to a Class 100 at Marvel? It decapitated them. Aquaman being KO'd by that isn't bad.

Namor is particularly weak to heat. J'onn looked weak as **** when a normal human fared better than him against that same superbreath.

Blitzing Amazo and getting to admit he felt pain isn't bad at all.

Blitzing? He bullrushed Amazo. And its not like Amazo has such a great durability back in the day. He only had a portion of powers of original league anyway.

"You hurt me" "Good that was the plan" Aquaman being KO'd by Heatvision isn't a bad thing especially since he got up not long later before Vixen even who was KOd before him.

Yes, Vixen who is such a beast in strength.

Talk about scrapping the barrel.

I suggested Aquaman took more hits then Diana before they initially went dpwn. Getting back up faster is a regen/stamina thing not a durability. You've yet to even say how many hits Superman and Wonder Woman got yet your suggesting I should learn how to read comics. When your making assumptions that aren't even shown or supported by the comic.

Are you blind or something?

And no, Arthur was oneshotted and never got back up.

Superman and Diana took more than one attack and Superman was the last one standing.

Stuff like Aquaman surviving a beating from a guy who oneshotted Superman also reaffirms he's higher then your suggesting..

http://m.imgur.com/Gm7jV7D

That doesn't shows Arthur taking a beating from Titus. It is not even a fight that was shown. All it shows is Arthur tried to fight for Titus for one minute and that's it. No measure was shown how many attacks he took.

Given Titus could do stuff like this
http://m.imgur.com/a/Z4l7f

Yes, Superman actually knocked Titus out with a divebomb and made the mistake of turning around and basically giving Titus a free shot.

That is literally the worst part you could show for Arthur. It basically shows Superman doing alone what entire league couldn't do.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And that makes J'onn look bad instead of Arthur looking good who was easily koed by Amazo too.

Namor is particularly weak to heat. J'onn looked weak as **** when a normal human fared better than him against that same superbreath.

Blitzing? He bullrushed Amazo. And its not like Amazo has such a great durability back in the day. He only had a portion of powers of original league anyway.

Yes, Vixen who is such a beast in strength.

Talk about scrapping the barrel.

Are you blind or something?

And no, Arthur was oneshotted and never got back up.

Superman and Diana took more than one attack and Superman was the last one standing.

That doesn't shows Arthur taking a beating from Titus. It is not even a fight that was shown. All it shows is Arthur tried to fight for Titus for one minute and that's it. No measure was shown how many attacks he took.

Yes, Superman actually knocked Titus out with a divebomb and made the mistake of turning around and basically giving Titus a free shot.

That is literally the worst part you could show for Arthur. It basically shows Superman doing alone what entire league couldn't do.

Really? It looked like to me Superman got some hits in when he had the chance but when Titus hit back he went down..

Where are these attacks that Superman and Wonder Woman are taking that your bringing up? The fact is you cant say that for sure because we don't see them on panel..

"It sounded like depth charges were going off at "times"" Given the sonic boom Titus created when he hit Superman I'd back up that the depth charges were him.

Aquaman started the fight also before the minute underwater with two hits that he got in.
http://t06.deviantart.net/nNL7nz0AGXPgj_0E-HRumQlpotM=/300x200/filters:fixed_height(100,100)😮rigin()/pre10/3d63/th/pre/f/2015/244/f/6/aquaman_vs_titus_by_madfacedkid-d9804zg.jpg

Which on top of that is awesome because the comic suggested Aquaman's Striking power > The Flash's

Amazo had the Original 7's abilities he's shown Superman and Flash's abilities in the comics at the he very least and Amazo has shown to typically be more potent with the characters abilities that he possesses.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Really? It looked like to me Superman got some hits in when he had the chance but when Titus hit back he went down..

Superman divebombed him and took him out. The league were spectator at best.

Where are these attacks that Superman and Wonder Woman are taking that your bringing up? The fact is you cant say that for sure because we don't see them on panel..

Seriously? Superman took three attacks here.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29822814/JLA_27_pg15.jpg.html

And more here.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29822834/JLA_27_pg18.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29822837/JLA_27_pg19.jpg.html

Not to mention Amazo was more powerful than before.

"It sounded like depth charges were going off at "times"" Given the sonic boom Titus created when he hit Superman I'd back up that the depth charges were him.

That's just wild speculation at best. Aquaman wasn't shown or implied to be Superman level in that comic. No one was.

Aquaman started the fight also before the minute underwater with two hits that he got in.
http://t06.deviantart.net/nNL7nz0AGXPgj_0E-HRumQlpotM=/300x200/filters:fixed_height(100,100)😮rigin()/pre10/3d63/th/pre/f/2015/244/f/6/aquaman_vs_titus_by_madfacedkid-d9804zg.jpg

Yes, which were totally meaningless.

Which on top of that is awesome because the comic suggested Aquaman's Striking power > The Flash's

Yes, Barry Allen. Who was nigh useless in striking power.

Amazo had the Original 7's abilities he's shown Superman and Flash's abilities in the comics at the he very least and Amazo has shown to typically be more potent with the characters abilities that he possesses.

That's post crisis Amazo. If you don't know that was pre crisis Amazo. And here you go.

Aquaman himself says he isn't even near to Superman level strength. I know you like Aquaman a lot but the reality is before New 52, he wasn't even close to being Superman or wonder woman level in strength. He isn't even now but the gap has decreased.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman divebombed him and took him out. The league were spectator at best.

Seriously? Superman took three attacks here.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29822814/JLA_27_pg15.jpg.html

And more here.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29822834/JLA_27_pg18.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29822837/JLA_27_pg19.jpg.html

Not to mention Amazo was more powerful than before.

That's just wild speculation at best. Aquaman wasn't shown or implied to be Superman level in that comic. No one was.

Yes, which were totally meaningless.

Yes, Barry Allen. Who was nigh useless in striking power.

That's post crisis Amazo. If you don't know that was pre crisis Amazo. And here you go.

Aquaman himself says he isn't even near to Superman level strength. I know you like Aquaman a lot but the reality is before New 52, he wasn't even close to being Superman or wonder woman level in strength. He isn't even now but the gap has decreased.

Detroit is part of Post Crisis continuity mate.

My main beef is you suggesting Aquaman is class 60. He's Class 100 by feats you don't have to be near Superman in strength to be Class 100. Your admission most of the time is most characters don't equate Superman's strength.

Aquaman has suggested he's not on par with Superman in strength and I'm not disputing that but he is a Class 100.

I even stated before months ago that fact and I continuously suggest Superman outclasses Aquaman in strength.

Aquaman beat the Deep 6 physically who are Class 100 characters stated by the writer atleast Slig is.
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/aquaman/4005-2357/forums/aquaman-misconceptions-and-facts-thread-1768562/#18

Aquaman has been easily class 100 since the reboot, and you could make a reasonable argument for him being it beforehand.

It doesn't mean he'd beat Superman or anything, but he's well above people who bench 100 tons.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Aquaman has been easily class 100 since the reboot, and you could make a reasonable argument for him being it beforehand.

It doesn't mean he'd beat Superman or anything, but he's well above people who bench 100 tons.

The Sub-Diego and Trench feat dwarf the 100 ton mark as well. Sure it'd not planet moving but it well exceeds 100 tons.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
The Sub-Diego and Trench feat dwarf the 100 ton mark as well. Sure it'd not planet moving but it well exceeds 100 tons.

Definitely. I'd argue that he's been more consistent post-reboot, but he has a few nice feats from before then that show he's well above the likes of say, The Thing.

Completely agree. Even later on during Final Crisis I believe he Casually dismissed King Shark who in the earlier days have gave him trouble and I believe still have Kon trouble.

Same thing Post-Flashpoint during the Thule storyline. He Casually dismissed KS who in Titans or SS gave Kon a scuffle one on one.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Completely agree. Even later on during Final Crisis I believe he Casually dismissed King Shark who in the earlier days have gave him trouble and I believe still have Kon trouble.

Same thing Post-Flashpoint during the Thule storyline. He Casually dismissed KS who in Titans or SS gave Kon a scuffle one on one.

Does Final Crisis count? I thought that was retconned/discounted by Blackest Night.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Does Final Crisis count? I thought that was retconned/discounted by Blackest Night.

The events of it are referenced because Dolphin died in the tie in issue.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
The events of it are referenced because Dolphin died in the tie in issue.

So I guess you could say the comic wasn't...

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