Aquaman Vs Iron Man fist fight

Started by abhilegend7 pages

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
What you constitute as manhandling is quite interesting. She hit Aquaman and broke his harness as well as Slammed a Lunged Aquaman which could be momentum. I have no issue with her getting a slam on him either she's the more skilled fighter on feats.

But he showed no signs of pain.. No "Uggh", " Aggh" , "Owww" none of it. I'm sure the writer didn't forget either since WonderMan was making Rayner cry out in pain at times and came off about to beat Rayner if not for Superman's interference

Aquaman's objective was getting the Item not fighting She-Hulk. "I don't mind finding out which one of us would truly win a battle, but I don't have to beat you" Paraphrased. It was two hits where Aquaman didn't really give any indication of pain, yet somehow he got manhandled?

Yes, she was basically manhandling him and he turned and left the fight knowing he couldn't beat her in a fight.

He was shown completely fine after the fact only difference is his harness was broken..

Yes, characters don't get bloody in two punches.

In order for Detroit to be cannon you'd have to fit everything in the time line. Amazo could of easily happened. In JLA 27 they've shown knowledge of facing him before, so I don't get where your getting that Amazo was retconned Post crisis when he was shown PC on a couple occasions. Morrison and Metzler run off my head.

Pre crisis Amazo was retconned away by post crisis version of Amazo. Yes, facing him by original JLA Year One team. Not by Detroit League.

http://m.imgur.com/wtATi9D
1st scan could easily have more meanings then one.

Post Flashpoint.

But even then
http://m.imgur.com/PmaR71A
Suggested to be one of the strongest guys on the Planet.

Forever Evil aka new 52.

Why not post something before Flashpoint?

If we look at Multiversity Morrison said Aquawoman was the most powerful native Lifeform on her Earth. That's with their being a Wonder Man on it.

So? Alternate universes count now, eh?

We even have the statement under Dan Jurgens in Panic in The sky where Aquaman was suggested to be fighting "invaders strong enough to go head to head with Superman"

Panic in the sky? Where?

DC Home website even suggest he holds his own
http://www.dccomics.com/characters/aquaman

New 52 Aquaman. Try again.

I need to see this whale Aquaman used on Namor. Surely it must have been 1,000 times larger than Moby Dick.

I wonder where the whale is now?

Here you go:

I believe the whale retired undefeated.

Dat writing.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Dat writing.

I know PAD wrote at least some if not all of this series; i forgive him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, she was basically manhandling him and he turned and left the fight knowing he couldn't beat her in a fight.

Yes, characters don't get bloody in two punches.

Pre crisis Amazo was retconned away by post crisis version of Amazo. Yes, facing him by original JLA Year One team. Not by Detroit League.

Post Flashpoint.

Forever Evil aka new 52.

Why not post something before Flashpoint?

So? Alternate universes count now, eh?

Panic in the sky? Where?

New 52 Aquaman. Try again.


He didn't get bloodied he got Slammed and HIS harness was punched off meaning he wasn't even hit in the face... since you know his harness is on his chest.

All that suggest is Year 1 happened before Detroit it doesn't retconn the showing I still don't see any reasoning why it would.

I brought up the Alt. Universe cause it was Morrison and I think his view on Aquawoman is how he views Aquaman as a powerhouse.

Both Pre-Flashpoint
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111244877/5043949-4693674-screenshot_2015-07-13-16-34-31-1.jpg

The Slig statement would also count considering it was referencing a threat Aquaman was physically facing and going to beat.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
He didn't get bloodied he got Slammed and HIS harness was punched off meaning he wasn't even hit in the face... since you know his harness is on his chest.

Yet, he was overmatched in strength and forfeited the fight.

Superman knocked out Thor in the same comic and he wasn't bloody either.

You do a lot of mental gymnastics to get around the topic. Why did Arthur run away from the fight?

All that suggest is Year 1 happened before Detroit it doesn't retconn the showing I still don't see any reasoning why it would.

Because Amazo was retconned in only awakening years after its defeat by Year One JLA and never fighting Detroit JLA.

I brought up the Alt. Universe cause it was Morrison and I think his view on Aquawoman is how he views Aquaman as a powerhouse.

That's just bullshit. Alternate universe counterparts are invalid for a reason.

Both Pre-Flashpoint
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111244877/5043949-4693674-screenshot_2015-07-13-16-34-31-1.jpg

He is talking about some of those Invaders strong enough to fight Superman.

Where did he fight "some" of those Invaders?

The Slig statement would also count considering it was referencing a threat Aquaman was physically facing and going to beat.

Yet Slig has no feats to show he is at that level. Lip service can get you only so far. Otherwise Martian Manjobber would be the most powerful being on Earth.

Until a villain beats the shit out of him and Superman has to save his ass. Again.

^^^While holding back and weakened.

Which Aquaman is this? Preboot or New 52?

Also, seriously, no crossovers.

Which Aquaman is this? Preboot or New 52?
New 52.

Also, seriously, no crossovers.
Till the next time.

Of course. If people always did as they were asked, there really wouldn't be a need for mods.

Well, there's always those damn Bots.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yet, he was overmatched in strength and forfeited the fight.

Superman knocked out Thor in the same comic and he wasn't bloody either.

You do a lot of mental gymnastics to get around the topic. Why did Arthur run away from the fight?

Because Amazo was retconned in only awakening years after its defeat by Year One JLA and never fighting Detroit JLA.

That's just bullshit. Alternate universe counterparts are invalid for a reason.

He is talking about some of those Invaders strong enough to fight Superman.

Where did he fight "some" of those Invaders?

Yet Slig has no feats to show he is at that level. Lip service can get you only so far. Otherwise Martian Manjobber would be the most powerful being on Earth.

Until a villain beats the shit out of him and Superman has to save his ass. Again.

Superman and Thor was a drawn out fight there were short scuffles along with longer ones. The short scuffle Superman had was alongside Kyle against Mrs. Marvel and Simon that was the only fight in regards to short scuffles that was conclusive.

Arthur said why he left the fight. He deemed it as pointless and even suggested he'd be interested in fighting some other time. I don't understand why your ignoring context and creating new stuff like She-Hulk making Aquaman bleed.
http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111244877/5451289-p00079.jpg
There fight was 2 panels as shown..
Ending with
http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111244877/5451291-p00080.jpg

You keep saying Amazo was retconned but you have yet to prove it along with other stuff you keep suggesting...

You said Detroit wasn't part of Post-Crisis continuity I disagreed and atleast showed scans to support my point.. you see the difference.

But Alternative crossovers count?

Weren't you asking for statements? I provided the Slig and Invaders statement for your request of statements for Aquaman being on that level..

That's nice for MMH I honestly think Plot and Popularity restrict him. While it helps Superman.

That's nice for MMH I honestly think Plot and Popularity restrict him. While it helps Superman.

Thats pretty much a fact.

Originally posted by riv6672
Here you go:

I believe the whale retired undefeated.

Well now we know what happened to Willy once he was freed.

He went rogue.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Superman and Thor was a drawn out fight there were short scuffles along with longer ones. The short scuffle Superman had was alongside Kyle against Mrs. Marvel and Simon that was the only fight in regards to short scuffles that was conclusive.

Arthur said why he left the fight. He deemed it as pointless and even suggested he'd be interested in fighting some other time. I don't understand why your ignoring context and creating new stuff like She-Hulk making Aquaman bleed.
http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111244877/5451289-p00079.jpg
There fight was 2 panels as shown..
Ending with
http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111244877/5451291-p00080.jpg

Well, as Pr said that the crossover talk is over, it's over.

But I like how you have to make someone bleed to overpower them and where did I say she hulk made him bleed anyway?

You keep saying Amazo was retconned but you have yet to prove it along with other stuff you keep suggesting...

It's outright shown in JLA 27. That's the first time since JLA year one that Amazo was reactivated.

You said Detroit wasn't part of Post-Crisis continuity I disagreed and atleast showed scans to support my point.. you see the difference.

I said not all of Detroit Era was canon. Show me JLA Detroit fighting Amazo anywhere referenced.

But Alternative crossovers count?

No, they don't. Not here anyway?

Weren't you asking for statements? I provided the Slig and Invaders statement for your request of statements for Aquaman being on that level..

You're providing statement for the Invaders and Slig. Not for Aquaman.

That's nice for MMH I honestly think Plot and Popularity restrict him. While it helps Superman.

Yeah, right. J'onn was only given that chance to shine in post crisis JLA because Superman wasn't available to join the team.

Guys, what relevance does this have to new 52 Aquaman?

Yeah, right. J'onn was only given that chance to shine in post crisis JLA because Superman wasn't available to join the team.

TBF, that applies to any DC character near/equal to/above Superman in power.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well, as Pr said that the crossover talk is over, it's over.

But I like how you have to make someone bleed to overpower them and where did I say she hulk made him bleed anyway?

It's outright shown in JLA 27. That's the first time since JLA year one that Amazo was reactivated.

I said not all of Detroit Era was canon. Show me JLA Detroit fighting Amazo anywhere referenced.

No, they don't. Not here anyway?

You're providing statement for the Invaders and Slig. Not for Aquaman.

Yeah, right. J'onn was only given that chance to shine in post crisis JLA because Superman wasn't available to join the team.

The fight Detroit had against Amazo doesn't have to be referenced the only thing that needs to be known is Detroit was still in cannon. Pretty weak logic to try to get your way..

What you were suggesting in the top of page 5 wasn't trying to suggest Aquaman got bloodied by two hits? I like how you suggest you were my suggesting that if it's the case after I posted scans. Regards characters have been bloodied in one hit.. if your suggesting characters can't be bloodied by two..

It never was stated that was the first time since Year 1 that he was reactivated.. All that's stated is they have fought the Android before and now it's reactivated

I'm providing statements for two characters the writers hyped up with statements to show how powerful Aquaman is.