Most Studied Force Users?

Started by Ursumeles6 pages

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Wouldn't we consider this hyperbole since I don't recall the GE even had control of that many, or even that many different force groups in the galaxy. And even if we were to take that quote seriously, Palpatine didn't have lifetimes to study all of that.

He had control over more than Ragnos, lol.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Wouldn't we consider this hyperbole since I don't recall the GE even had control of that many, or even that many different force groups in the galaxy. And even if we were to take that quote seriously, Palpatine didn't have lifetimes to study all of that.

Nah. Per the Essential Atlas and other works, 1.69 million planets were qualified to receive full representation within the Imperial senate, and countless more had an Imperial presence.

We don't actually have a complete list of all the Force using traditions in the galaxy. Could be dozens, hundreds, thousands or more.

Neither did Caedus or Revan, who are each also among the most learned Force users ever despite relatively short careers. Length of time obviously isn't the end all be all to mastery.

Plus the Prophets of the Dark Side, which were involved heavily with Palpatine and his Dark Adepts, had Dromund Kaas, which would logically have a ton of Force Knowledge. Along with his Adepts who also delved into Force Knowledge and the like.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Nah. Per the Essential Atlas and other works, 1.69 million planets were qualified to receive full representation within the Imperial senate, and countless more had an Imperial presence.

We don't actually have a complete list of all the Force using traditions in the galaxy. Could be dozens, hundreds, thousands or more.

Neither did Caedus or Revan, who are each also among the most learned Force users ever despite relatively short careers. Length of time obviously isn't the end all be all to mastery.

It still seems like hyperbole to have that many force using groups. Length of time isn't the end all be all but I would argue that length of time combined with vast resources almost certainly leads to mastery. Revan had that, Caedus did not. What Caedus had was esoteric force techniques.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
It still seems like hyperbole to have that many force using groups.

It never says how many Force using groups there are.

All jokes aside, where is Bane?

Originally posted by BazookaMaster
Jedi: Yoda, Luke Skywalker, Jacen Solo, Revan, maybe ancients like Nomi, Thon and Arca.

Siths: Freedom Nadd, Exar Kun, Vitiate, Bane, Zannah, Sidious, Krayt, Wyyrlock

Bazooka responded to ur cravings 🙂

Originally posted by The_Tempest
It never says how many Force using groups there are.

Yes but force related anything on over a million worlds? That sounds as realistic as Palpatine knowing every technique and creating new ones at his pleasure.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Yes but force related anything on over a million worlds? That sounds as realistic as Palpatine knowing every technique and creating new ones at his pleasure.

The Force is an ancient and omnipresent energy field. Makes total sense.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
The Force is an ancient and omnipresent energy field. Makes total sense.

How? He gathered "works" from a million worlds. How does that compute?

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
How? He gathered "works" from a million worlds. How does that compute?

Because the Force is everywhere. Consequently, there's a lot of shit about the Force scattered across the galaxy.

It's... not difficult lol. No brain-benders here.

Beefy struggling to comprehend Sheev's greatness. Can hardly blame him.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Beefy struggling to comprehend Sheev's greatness. Can hardly blame him.

My boy Beefy graduated law school, so I'm 100% positive that his "struggle" with this very simple concept is willful and exaggerated.

Prolly Palpatine, yeah.

Valkorion is arguably most learned.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
My boy Beefy graduated law school, so I'm 100% positive that his "struggle" with this very simple concept is willful and exaggerated.

My struggle is with the word "works", which seems to be defined as something physical, rather than something omnipresent. Hence, it doesn't make sense.

Sheev, Valk, Yaddle, Yoda, Odan Urr, Luke Skywalker, Vergere, Jacen, Revan, Plagueis, etc.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
My struggle is with the word "works", which seems to be defined as something physical, rather than something omnipresent. Hence, it doesn't make sense.

Jesus dude lol.

Works refer to physical stuff yes. The Force is ancient and everywhere. Which means individuals, groups, and civilizations have studied, worshipped, or practiced it on some level across the galaxy, be it sophisticated disciplines like the Sith or the eldritch tribalism of the Nightsisters. Their works of knowledge are scattered across the galaxy.

Palpatine made a concerted effort to collect that shit and study it. It's an extremely simple thing to grasp.

Out of interest do you have the source on this?

Vitiate almost certainly relied on experimentation for the vast majority of his years, as opposed to actually compiled knowledge, which he would've only studied from during the pre-GSW years and when the Sith Empire returned to known space.

Palpatine, on the other hand, had the benefit of far more learning material, instead of having to rely on experimentation. Since given knowledge is obviously a much faster and better way of studying the Force than blind experimentation, that would justify why later Force users are able to gain comparable or superior knowledge than their predecessors despite spending much less time studying.