Most Studied Force Users?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Jesus dude lol.

Works refer to physical stuff yes. The Force is ancient and everywhere. Which means individuals, groups, and civilizations have studied, worshipped, or practiced it on some level across the galaxy, be it sophisticated disciplines like the Sith or the eldritch tribalism of the Nightsisters. Their works of knowledge are scattered across the galaxy.

Palpatine made a concerted effort to collect that shit and study it. It's an extremely simple thing to grasp.

I understand what it means, I have a hard time believing there are over a million world with these "works", and you're not exactly helping the situation by continously claiming the force is "omnipresent". Why don't you just repeat "fear is the path to the dark side" after every post?

Vitiate almost certainly relied on experimentation for the vast majority of his years, as opposed to actually compiled knowledge, which he would've only studied from during the pre-GSW years and when the Sith Empire returned to known space.

Palpatine, on the other hand, had the benefit of far more learning material, instead of having to rely on experimentation. Since given knowledge is obviously a much faster and better way of studying the Force than blind experimentation, that would justify why later Force users are able to gain comparable or superior knowledge than their predecessors despite spending much less time studying.

Luke, Plagueis, Yoda, Jacen, Vergere, Krayt and Wyyrlok are superior to nearly every Force User, that lived before them, in Terms of knowledge.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Well yea, he had the sources but his experimentation meant he was constantly creating new force techniques or studying esoteric ones. So?

Experimentation doesn't necessarily result in success, lol. It could also result in disaster or just a plain dead end. That's why it's so much less efficient than studying learned material - which is guaranteed to work. Experimentation is essentially guess-and-check.

But Palpatine was the exception here. Later force users don't compare in force knowledge to their predecessors. All I'm understanding is there were over a million worlds with force related works, regardless of how valuable they were.

Which is why Palpatine can be safely labelled as the most studied of all Sith, and probably the most studied of all Force users unless I'm missing something.

You also contradict yourself somewhat by claiming that later characters don't compare to older ones in knowledge, given that you earlier claimed that experimentation would result in constant success and thus would replace the lost knowledge?

Dunno why Wyyrlock is here. I mean sure he's obvs got some knowledge but he can't touch Yoda, Sheev and the ancients

Imo he could be over the ancients, bar Nadd, Kun and maybe Syn.
Wyyrlok was more knowlegable than Krayt, IIRC.

No. Krayt spending however long in stasis exploring the force should be enough to exceed Wyyrlock

Experimentation doesn't necessarily result in success, lol. It could also result in disaster or just a plain dead end. That's why it's so much less efficient than studying learned material - which is guaranteed to work. Experimentation is essentially guess-and-check.

You also contradict yourself somewhat by claiming that later characters don't compare to older ones in knowledge, given that you earlier claimed that experimentation would result in constant success and thus would replace the lost knowledge?

Wyyrlok has "unparraled knowledge in Sith lore and rituals"
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/darth-wyyrlok-iii-respect-thread-1675001/

Being unparalleled is hardly something to consider. Vader and Kun have unparalleled skill in combat. We know for a fact they aren't the best Duelists ever so who cares? Pretty sure Nox had similar things said about him

Being unparalleled doesn't instantly make you one of the best

Ur dumb Chingy.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Being unparalleled doesn't instantly make you one of the best

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Being unparalleled doesn't instantly make you one of the best

Well all it does is make you unparalleled in your time period. But he's possibly one of the greatest ever.

I hate Wyyrlock Beni, I'll make up whatever excuse to make sure he stays shit.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
I hate Wyyrlock Beni, I'll make up whatever excuse to make sure he stays shit.

You are on your way to dethrone DMB on the Salt Throne. If you haven't already.

No salt GIF? 🙁

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Sure, but his resulted in successes. He turned Kaas into a lightning storm, studied the phobis devices, performed rituals and experiments for centuries in the temple. Something tells me he didn't fail because he didn't die.

Failure doesn't necessarily result in death either. Most of the things you mentioned occurred over centuries, too. He could've had setbacks as much as he did successes.

How? Vitiate had access to knowledge, considering he was a scholar that spent an entire century delving deep into the dark side, prior to the GHW. Successful experimentation would ensure new force techniques but in no way would they replace lost knowledge. There wasn't lost knowledge during Vitiate's reign though. It came later through the plundering of the ancient sith world, destructions of Ossus, etc.

Those were all things that happened during Vitiate's time. Vitiate doesn't have Ossus under his belt, lol.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
You are on your way to dethrone DMB on the Salt Throne. If you haven't already.

Hate aside, he's definitely one of the most knowledgable of his era but Krayt is still his superior. Although not in the same tier as Valk, Yoda and the other titans, there can be little doubt he is still 'one of' the more learnt force users.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Wyyrlok is underrated 🙁
Cade as well.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
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