Most Studied Force Users?

Those were all things that happened during Vitiate's time. Vitiate doesn't have Ossus under his belt, lol.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
I understand what it means, I have a hard time believing there are over a million world with these "works", and you're not exactly helping the situation by continously claiming the force is "omnipresent". Why don't you just repeat "fear is the path to the dark side" after every post?

I have a hard time believing lots of shit in Star Wars. But a million worlds is an extremely insignificant number in a galaxy with 400 BILLION stars or more. And given that the Force is everywhere in the galaxy, it makes even more sense. There's nothing objectionable about this lol.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I have a hard time believing lots of shit in Star Wars. But a million worlds is an extremely insignificant number in a galaxy with 400 BILLION stars or more. And given that the Force is everywhere in the galaxy, it makes even more sense. There's nothing objectionable about this lol.

If the GE controlled 2 million worlds and half of those worlds contain force related works, you find this believable?

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
If the GE controlled 2 million worlds and half of those worlds contain force related works, you find this believable?

The GE "controls" much more than 2 million planets, it's just that only 1.69 million meet the requirements to have direct representation in the Imperial senate. There are countless more that are under Imperial rule that aren't represented on Coruscant in the Senate.

And yes, it makes absolute sense.

Considering that Force secrets existed on shitholes like Nar Shaddaa, the ruined Taris, even Hoth, Tatooine and Mustafar, yeah, it's feasible.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Considering that Force secrets existed on shitholes like Nar Shaddaa, the ruined Taris, even Hoth, Tatooine and Mustafar, yeah, it's feasible.

What force related works existed on those planets during the time of the GE?

Beefy, what Temp is trying to say is that because the Force is omnipresent, it is everywhere. And as a result, Force sensitives are also born everywhere. And with billions of stars, all with their own planetary system, it is completely reasonable, even likely, that primitive Force-using cultures exist on a million planets. Heck, even the Sith were Force users on Korriban for over 70,000 years and no one knew of their existence until the Rakata arrived. It even took the Republic, after its foundation, decamillenia to discover the planet.

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I got that part for the millionth time.

My problem is reconciling two things:

A. The sheer amount of force related "works" being in the millions. It seems incredibly unrealistic but ok, lets say it's not. The bigger problems lies within

B. The sheer manpower and time it would take to gather "force related" things from millions of worlds and bring it back to Palpatine, is insane. I'm not even talking about cataloging everything. I want RH or someone with similar skills to sit down and calculate the time and logistics involved to see if the feat is even possible.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
My problem is reconciling two things:

A. The sheer amount of force related "works" being in the millions. It seems incredibly unrealistic but ok, lets say it's not. The bigger problems lies within

B. The sheer manpower and time it would take to gather "force related" things from millions of worlds and bring it back to Palpatine, is insane. I'm not even talking about cataloging everything. I want RH or someone with similar skills to sit down and calculate the time and logistics involved to see if the feat is even possible.

Given the vast resources of the Empire and the fact Palps had a bunch of Dark Adepts and the Prophets, who went out to find Force stuff and primitive Force Adepts, it's not unlikely that they couldn't gather Force Knowledge and stuff. Especially because of hyperdrives. Plus these other Force organizations that also gather their own Force knowledge and experiment themselves.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Given the vast resources of the Empire and the fact Palps had a bunch of Dark Adepts and the Prophets, who went out to find Force stuff and primitive Force Adepts, it's not unlikely that they couldn't gather Force Knowledge and stuff. Especially because of hyperdrives. Plus these other Force organizations that also gather their own Force knowledge and experiment themselves.

I get all that. But MILLIONS of worlds.

*over a million != millionS.

It's not incredibly unrealistic, for reasons Azronger and I provided.

The Empire's resources are unprecedented, which is what the text cites for Palpatine's ability to gather such arcana.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
*over a million != millionS.

It's not incredibly unrealistic, for reasons Azronger and I provided.

The Empire's resources are unprecedented, which is what the text cites for Palpatine's ability to gather such arcana.

I'm not saying it's not possible, I'm saying it would (in my opinion) take decades if not centuries to gather works from a million world and send them back to Palpatine, one world at a time. Not to mention sorting out it so Palpatine can study something.

The Emperor's ridiculous foresight capabilities could've also helped:

Sidious stood motionless and silent on the transmission grid, his fingers steepled, his mind meditating on the eddies and currents of the Force. Those of lesser sensitivity were oblivious to it, but to him it was like an omnipresent mist, invisible but nonetheless tangible, that swirled and drifted constantly about him. No words, no descriptions could begin to convey what it was like; the only way to understand it was to experience it. He had learned over long years of study and meditation how to interpret each and every vagary of its restless flow, no matter how slight.

-Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter

Originally posted by Azronger
The Emperor's ridiculous foresight capabilities could've also helped:

Sidious stood motionless and silent on the transmission grid, his fingers steepled, his mind meditating on the eddies and currents of the Force. Those of lesser sensitivity were oblivious to it, but to him it was like an omnipresent mist, invisible but nonetheless tangible, that swirled and drifted constantly about him. No words, no descriptions could begin to convey what it was like; the only way to understand it was to experience it. He had learned over long years of study and meditation how to interpret each and every vagary of its restless flow, no matter how slight.

-Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter

I'm not sure how that translates to his ability to find force related works on over a million worlds. Kreia could see 4,000 years into the future and that didn't translate to anything like what you're talking about.

Given his demonstrations of Force Sense throughout the mythos, I'd say that would help quite a bit to determine which world is populated with Force sensitives, and which isn't.

And Traya never set out to find Force knowledge on other planets since she was sitting on top of one of the largest libraries of the Ancient Sith, and she was amped when she did that feat. So that's an invalid comparison.

Originally posted by Azronger
Given his demonstrations of Force Sense throughout the mythos, I'd say that would help quite a bit to determine which world is populated with Force sensitives, and which isn't.

And Traya never set out to find Force knowledge on other planets since she was sitting on top of one of the largest libraries of the Ancient Sith, and she was amped when she did that feat. So that's an invalid comparison.

How would it take decades, when ships can cross the galaxy in days/weeks? At most months.