Originally posted by SunRazerI'm not making up anything, thats literally what the ****ing novel says.
Scourge was already forced away when Nyriss brought Surik to her knees. So it could've been anything.You're just making things up at this point, and I don't have the time to indulge in your fan-fictions.
But whatever helps you sleep at night, bud.
Originally posted by SunRazerThen what do you speculate the attack was?
The novel has nothing on what brought Surik to her knees. You're making it up.
Thats what you have to do in situations like that, speculate.
And logically, the only attack that could actively force her to her knees is a downward slash.
Originally posted by Nephthys
IIRC that was debunked. Scourge was fighting the leader anyway.
LOL no, people just like to skip the first three pages of the fight and hammer home the quote of them both fighting two at the same time, which is right at the end of the fight with the guards.
There are seven guards to begin with, as noted when Yarri arrives. Scourge fights Yarri, Meetra leaps at two of them whilst Revan and T3 kills one, another goes to intercept Revan and Revan kills him. Revan goes to fight the Emperor.
So:
Revan kills two.
Scourge is fighting Yarri.
Meetra is left with four to fight off.
Scourge continues facing Yarri, Meetra is still fighting the guards 'off-screen', keep in mind that the fight is in Revan's point of view up until this point and doesn't go back to Scourge until after Revan rips an arch down to block another six guards from coming through.
So then one of the guards rushes off to help Yarri against Scourge, leaving three for Meetra, noting that Revan notes one of the guards triggered an alarm in the hallway. Revan eventually calls for them to retreat into the throne room where it's noted that they are facing a duo each, meaning Meetra must have already killed one herself 'off-screen'.
There is also the matter of fact that Scourge pretty much already had Yarri down before the other guard really got a chance to aid her at all. So Meetra is facing three guards by the time Revan notes the alarm has buzzed.
Biggest difference for the two of them is that Meetra is resisting the presence of the Emperor which is noted to break 'even the most powerful Jedi's connection to the light side of the Force', infact Tol Braga is noted in the codex, to be corrupted by the Emperor's sheer power, he doesn't even need to mentally dominate him. Whereas Scourge was drawing off of the emotion of the guards to finish them off. All of this whilst inside the dark citadel which Scourge states right from the start of his point of view in the book, was capable of physically sustaining him for hours in training sessions with the dark side energy emanating from the building, all the way over in the Kaas Academy on the outskirts of Kaas City. Meaning the power of the citadel would be far more potent of an amp for him whilst inside it. They also accomplished their respective feats in the same amount of time.
Meetra takes Scourge to town in a neutral setting.
Originally posted by AncientPower
LOL no, people just like to skip the first three pages of the fight and hammer home the quote of them both fighting two at the same time, which is right at the end of the fight with the guards.There are seven guards to begin with, as noted when Yarri arrives. Scourge fights Yarri, Meetra leaps at two of them whilst Revan and T3 kills one, another goes to intercept Revan and Revan kills him. Revan goes to fight the Emperor.
So:
Revan kills two.
Scourge is fighting Yarri.
Meetra is left with four to fight off.Scourge continues facing Yarri, Meetra is still fighting the guards 'off-screen', keep in mind that the fight is in Revan's point of view up until this point and doesn't go back to Scourge until after Revan rips an arch down to block another six guards from coming through.
So then one of the guards rushes off to help Yarri against Scourge, leaving three for Meetra, noting that Revan notes one of the guards triggered an alarm in the hallway. Revan eventually calls for them to retreat into the throne room where it's noted that they are facing a duo each, meaning Meetra must have already killed one herself 'off-screen'.
There is also the matter of fact that Scourge pretty much already had Yarri down before the other guard really got a chance to aid her at all. So Meetra is facing three guards by the time Revan notes the alarm has buzzed.
Biggest difference for the two of them is that Meetra is resisting the presence of the Emperor which is noted to break 'even the most powerful Jedi's connection to the light side of the Force', infact Tol Braga is noted in the codex, to be corrupted by the Emperor's sheer power, he doesn't even need to mentally dominate him. Whereas Scourge was drawing off of the emotion of the guards to finish them off. All of this whilst inside the dark citadel which Scourge states right from the start of his point of view in the book, was capable of physically sustaining him for hours in training sessions with the dark side energy emanating from the building, all the way over in the Kaas Academy on the outskirts of Kaas City. Meaning the power of the citadel would be far more potent of an amp for him whilst inside it. They also accomplished their respective feats in the same amount of time.
Meetra takes Scourge to town in a neutral setting.
I mean, Yarri is the best Guard that Vitiate has though, so you can figure Meetra would have just as much trouble.
Originally posted by AncientPowerOh btw, no one is trying to argue that Meetra would lose on neutral ground.
Yarri being a captain doesn't dismiss all of the other circumstances, the guards are clearly better in groups, group combat is what allows them to kill Dark Council members. Yarri is even stated to be no match for Lord Scourge, despite their prolonged contest.
Yeah, I guess so, but Yarri should be considerably above your average joe. (In terms of Imperial Skills)
And you said Scourge killed 2?
Meetra killed four?
They are all elite members of the Imperial Guardsmen according to Drew Karpyshyn, who are each charged to protect the Emperor himself, so I'm not sure how large the combative difference is going to be, I'd wager she is the Captain through experience and longevity not being uber 1337.
Scourge kills two, Meetra was likely facing four at once off-screen, before one of them went to aid Yarri. Meetra thus killed three.
Originally posted by AncientPower
LOL no, people just like to skip the first three pages of the fight and hammer home the quote of them both fighting two at the same time, which is right at the end of the fight with the guards.There are seven guards to begin with, as noted when Yarri arrives. Scourge fights Yarri, Meetra leaps at two of them whilst Revan and T3 kills one, another goes to intercept Revan and Revan kills him. Revan goes to fight the Emperor.
So:
Revan kills two.
Scourge is fighting Yarri.
Meetra is left with four to fight off.Scourge continues facing Yarri, Meetra is still fighting the guards 'off-screen', keep in mind that the fight is in Revan's point of view up until this point and doesn't go back to Scourge until after Revan rips an arch down to block another six guards from coming through.
So then one of the guards rushes off to help Yarri against Scourge, leaving three for Meetra, noting that Revan notes one of the guards triggered an alarm in the hallway. Revan eventually calls for them to retreat into the throne room where it's noted that they are facing a duo each, meaning Meetra must have already killed one herself 'off-screen'.
There is also the matter of fact that Scourge pretty much already had Yarri down before the other guard really got a chance to aid her at all. So Meetra is facing three guards by the time Revan notes the alarm has buzzed.
You're forgetting this line:
"An alarm began to ring out in the hall, triggered by one of the other three soldiers. Before they could join in the fight, Revan thrust his hand, palm up,"
The soldiers who hadn't been immediately engaged hadn't been able to join the fighting until Revan calls them into the throne room. So up till that point Meetra had only been fighting two of them. Revan had taken out 1, Scourge fought Yarri, Meetra was fighting 2, leaving those 3 remaining idk wanking each other off in a corner. At no point is she fighting all 4 at once. Then Revan kills 1, 1 goes to fight Scourge and I guess Meetra kills 1 off-screen, therefore she was only ever fighting 2 or maybe 3 at any time.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Biggest difference for the two of them is that Meetra is resisting the presence of the Emperor which is noted to break 'even the most powerful Jedi's connection to the light side of the Force', infact Tol Braga is noted in the codex, to be corrupted by the Emperor's sheer power, he doesn't even need to mentally dominate him. Whereas Scourge was drawing off of the emotion of the guards to finish them off. All of this whilst inside the dark citadel which Scourge states right from the start of his point of view in the book, was capable of physically sustaining him for hours in training sessions with the dark side energy emanating from the building, all the way over in the Kaas Academy on the outskirts of Kaas City. Meaning the power of the citadel would be far more potent of an amp for him whilst inside it. They also accomplished their respective feats in the same amount of time.Meetra takes Scourge to town in a neutral setting.
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Can you even read? He uses the Force to blast open the durasteel doors so they could retreat into the throne room, where plenty of fighting goes on. Later on, it's confirmed that only Yarri and three of the guards had survived by the time of Meetra and Scourge's retreat into the throne room. The other three were dead, meaning Revan's two and one Meetra had to have killed off-screen. Scourge and Yarri are fighting solo until one of the guards fighting Meetra peeled off to help her.