First Order vs The United Federation of Planets
Hopefully the mod allows this:
The war takes place in Kirk's era (new films). Who wins this epic fight? The First Order with leaders like Snoke and Kylo Ren or The Federation with commanders like Kirk and Pike?
https://youtu.be/KLCrAb_ESw8
Originally posted by TondemonaiWatch the clip. I think Star Wars the idea is far better than Star Trek. I can't stand the original prime timeline. It's awful. I love the new Kelvin timeline though. You can clearly see even with the link though that the prime timeline looks more impressive than the Ot era who I've been on record for saying is weak and overrated. I am objective.
I crave nothing. I only wish you to be enlightened, and cease your foolish idolization of the inferior Star Trek
Conversely the Kelvin timeline is a lot more formidable than the Ot era. Leaps and bounds. They'd chew them up and spit them out.
Originally posted by TondemonaiSo you concede on the link I posted. Excellent. The Trek special effects in the link is on a much lower budget but the damage is clearly more impressive than the Star Wars ships, characters.
You realize that I'm actually on topic with my points here, right? The difference is you haven't mentioned something on topic beyond comparing special effects from 1980 to that of 2009 👆
Kelvin Timeline should take them with moderate difficulty tbh. The Dreadnought (Admiral Marcus' ship) is more than powerful enough to defeat a couple SDs, and the Kelvin Enterprise is definitely a match for just about anything. Also, if we include ships like the Narada, First Order is absolutely ****ed. Also, was it the Federation at this point? I thought it was still just Star-Fleet.
Originally posted by quanchi112
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Originally posted by darthbane77
Kelvin Timeline should take them with moderate difficulty tbh. The Dreadnought (Admiral Marcus' ship) is more than powerful enough to defeat a couple SDs, and the Kelvin Enterprise is definitely a match for just about anything. Also, if we include ships like the Narada, First Order is absolutely ****ed. Also, was it the Federation at this point? I thought it was still just Star-Fleet.
Since you're sensible and not drowning in Trek-cum, why do you say this?
Originally posted by TondemonaiBecause the original timeline for Trek is already comparable to the SW ship tech imo, and the Kelvin timeline is actually MORE advanced militarily speaking. The ships in the Kelvin timeline are more powerful than anything from the prime timeline, the Kelvin Enterprise alone is probably equal to the Enterprise-E (prime timeline.) And the Dreadnought raped the Kelvin Enterprise. The fight would be a relatively good one, but I think the Kelvin timeline ships are just more powerful and more advanced.
I doSince you're sensible and not drowning in Trek-cum, why do you say this?
Again, using a comparison of GCI and such from 1980 to that of 2009 as the basis for your argument is retarded. The reason I refuse to debate with you is the same reason you don't try to tell a Catholic priest that god doesn't exist. They're far too closed-minded and refuse to listen to reason since the dick of Christ is so far down their throat it's too late to try telling them anything else.
Originally posted by TondemonaiIronic comment since Star Wars is more faith based in the force than Trek which is more science based. You are a dogmatic Star Wars cum drinker who doesn't look at this objectively. Care to at least feign objectivity for my sake ?
Again, using a comparison of GCI and such from 1980 to that of 2009 as the basis for your argument is retarded. The reason I refuse to debate with you is the same reason you don't try to tell a Catholic priest that god doesn't exist. They're far too closed-minded and refuse to listen to reason since the dick of Christ is so far down their throat it's too late to try telling them anything else.