Chancellor Palpatine vs Khan

Started by quanchi11230 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
"The dark side clouds everything. Impossible to see the future is." - Yoda

Only a moron didn't understand that.

What does that vague statement have to do specifically with one on one combat ? The quote doesn't mean what you think it does. If so prove it.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No you buffoon.. He didn't admit defeat when he lost his saber... but he DID lose when he ACTUALLY admitted defeat. Which means. Sids TK did defeat Maul

Further, you have no clue how TK defense works. If you're in a confrontation why would you ever have it off? Think about clownshoes. You're so naïve on Star Wars on how things work it's truly sad. You should be excluded from all Star Wars threads based on not knowing the subject material. Stop posting

Another indicator you can't properly assess a scene. Sad times indeed. The reason he doesn't say anything prior to is because he is being thrown around. Palpatine pauses his assault after he's been disarmed so he asks for mercy. For **** sake you are extremely dense and have no common sense in your entire miserable DNA.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're truly ignorant of the source material. He wouldn't be able to tell what Yoda was going to do because he's also force sensitive himself. He has the ability to hide and shelter his feelings or actions. That is exactly how Palps was able to be right under the noses of the Jedi and they had no clue. He used his force powers to blind them of his presence and true motivations. Stop posting in any star wars thread every again.
Then how did Cad Bane beat Kenobi since he is a force sensitive and a highly skilled force user ? What you say makes no sense whatsoever when out under the microscope. The same goes for Jango Fett effectively disarming and evading Kenobi.

Palpatine was caught off guard just like when Vader tossed his ass screaming to his putrid death.

Originally posted by relentless1
Sidious and Yoda are on the same level as far as powers go...so whats your point?? Of course equals can throw each other around.
Even Ventress caught both Kenobi and Anakin off guard with a force choke and had both at her mercy. She is beneath both in skill level. Oh how I know my Star Wars better than most.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then how did Cad Bane beat Kenobi since he is a force sensitive and a highly skilled force user ? What you say makes no sense whatsoever when out under the microscope. The same goes for Jango Fett effectively disarming and evading Kenobi.

Palpatine was caught off guard just like when Vader tossed his ass screaming to his putrid death.

You're truly a buffoon. Nothing says just because you're force sensitive you can always see into the future and know exactly what is going to occur you mindless moron. Jedi or Sith can be caught off guard and don't always know what is coming. Shame we have to hold your hand through such basic things like this.

They are skilled combatants is why you idiot. They don't have to be force sensitive or have pre-cog to mount a good offensive or defensive. Plus we're talking about people who are very aware of the Jedi and their powers and how to fight them. They aren't naïve to them, in fact, they had confronted them before. Them doing well or not doing well has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. You were painfully unaware that Yoda might be able to hide his intentions from Sids during their fight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Another indicator you can't properly assess a scene. Sad times indeed. The reason he doesn't say anything prior to is because he is being thrown around. Palpatine pauses his assault after he's been disarmed so he asks for mercy. For **** sake you are extremely dense and have no common sense in your entire miserable DNA.

Speculation on your part no. 1 buffoon. What we DO know, is that losing your weapon DOESN'T mean you lost. However, saying YOU GIVE UP, IS and indicator of you losing. Maul gave up after being TK'd all over the room. I accept your concession on the matter.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Even Ventress caught both Kenobi and Anakin off guard with a force choke and had both at her mercy. She is beneath both in skill level. Oh how I know my Star Wars better than most.

HAHHA, LAUGHABLE. You were totally unaware ventress even existed till me and Darth Thor brought her up. You didn't have the slightest clue LOL

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're truly a buffoon. Nothing says just because you're force sensitive you can always see into the future and know exactly what is going to occur you mindless moron. Jedi or Sith can be caught off guard and don't always know what is coming. Shame we have to hold your hand through such basic things like this.

They are skilled combatants is why you idiot. They don't have to be force sensitive or have pre-cog to mount a good offensive or defensive. Plus we're talking about people who are very aware of the Jedi and their powers and how to fight them. They aren't naïve to them, in fact, they had confronted them before. Them doing well or not doing well has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. You were painfully unaware that Yoda might be able to hide his intentions from Sids during their fight.

So just as I said Palpatine can be caught off guard you now concede the point. That is my point you witless sidekick to the cuck. I am glad to hear you concur that any force sensitive can be struck or caught off guard.

Khan is also highly skilled and has superior strength and cellular regeneration. I am glad you don't have any issues with highly skilled warrior types beating the life from Sith or Jedi. I win.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Speculation on your part no. 1 buffoon. What we DO know, is that losing your weapon DOESN'T mean you lost. However, saying YOU GIVE UP, IS and indicator of you losing. Maul gave up after being TK'd all over the room. I accept your concession on the matter.
He doesn't pause his attacks until after the tk assault. He tk assaulted him prior to this and at no point did Maul concede since he was still armed. 2+2=4.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
HAHHA, LAUGHABLE. You were totally unaware ventress even existed till me and Darth Thor brought her up. You didn't have the slightest clue LOL
Thats a lie and what does that have to do with the facts I just presented. Ventress did it to two force users who were superior to her thus negating his ridiculously stupid point.

I'm smart you're stupid. Same old same old.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So just as I said Palpatine can be caught off guard you now concede the point. That is my point you witless sidekick to the cuck. I am glad to hear you concur that any force sensitive can be struck or caught off guard.

Khan is also highly skilled and has superior strength and cellular regeneration. I am glad you don't have any issues with highly skilled warrior types beating the life from Sith or Jedi. I win.

Sids had that done to him by "Greatest foe the darkness had ever known" He had that done to him by somebody Mace called "his superior in both peace and in war" He wasn't caught off guard as in he turned off his TK defense as you claimed. He didn't shut anything off. He just didn't know every thing Yoda would try during the fight, because Yoda himself can hide it from him and because it's a fight and can be unpredictable.

Difference here is, Khan ISN'T force sensitive, so he won't be able to hide his feelings and thoughts from Sids. I also don't take the approach of he'll know exactly what he's going to do at all times either. The truth is somewhere in the middle. The difference is, unlike Yoda, Khan has ZERO TK defense to stop from being ragdolled all over. He has zero defense for that. Plus his reactions are inferior to anything shown by Yoda or Sids, so already he's starting behind the 8 ball.

I do agree Khan is a skilled combatant, but he's NOT skilled in the same way Bane was nor Jango. He has ZERO knowledge of how Sids will attack, nor how to defend against it. The people that have done well against Jedi or Sith or aren't force sensitive are people who have trained to fight them and HAVE fought them. Khan NEVER has. So he's coming from a place of ignorance. Even though he has some skill, he's not skilled like them. That is the huge elephant in the room here.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Sids had that done to him by "Greatest foe the darkness had ever known" He had that done to him by somebody Mace called "his superior in both peace and in war" He wasn't caught off guard as in he turned off his TK defense as you claimed. He didn't shut anything off. He just didn't know every thing Yoda would try during the fight, because Yoda himself can hide it from him and because it's a fight and can be unpredictable.
So you believe hyperbole counts for anything. It doesn't. Yoda caught him off guard. It's that simple. Just as Ventress caught Kenobi and Anakin off guard despite being their inferior. None of these idiots know everything their opponents are going to throw at them. Quit making shit up.

Difference here is, Khan ISN'T force sensitive, so he won't be able to hide his feelings and thoughts from Sids. I also don't take the approach of he'll know exactly what he's going to do at all times either. The truth is somewhere in the middle. The difference is, unlike Yoda, Khan has ZERO TK defense to stop from being ragdolled all over. He has zero defense for that. Plus his reactions are inferior to anything shown by Yoda or Sids, so already he's starting behind the 8 ball. [/B]
Cad Bane wasn't force sensitive either. He beat Kenobi and you already conceded the point highly skilled guys can beat them. Cad Bane and Jango also have zero tk defenses yet they were fine.

I do agree Khan is a skilled combatant, but he's NOT skilled in the same way Bane was nor Jango. He has ZERO knowledge of how Sids will attack, nor how to defend against it. The people that have done well against Jedi or Sith or aren't force sensitive are people who have trained to fight them and HAVE fought them. Khan NEVER has. So he's coming from a place of ignorance. Even though he has some skill, he's not skilled like them. That is the huge elephant in the room here. [/B]
He doesn't need any knowledge of how Palpatine will attack. Khan will take him out ASAP. You're making things up again without any proof. It's just biased debating from someone who already conceded the debate a few posts ago due to my masterful debating.

Takes a bow.

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Originally posted by Robtard
"The dark side clouds everything. Impossible to see the future is." - Yoda

Only a moron didn't understand that.

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19-3...

Palpatine wins...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
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I already refuted his point.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
19-3...

Palpatine wins...

Based on ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already refuted his point.

No you didnt...

Only in your mind have you done this...

The rest of us see the arguments for what they are...

The Darkside clouding Jedi senses is precisely what I was telling you happens with Force Suppression...

Jedi and Sith attempt to smother the others Pre-cog when they battle...

But you simply refuse accept this, despite the movies and the novels emphasizing it, so I shouldnt even be wasting time telling this to you...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
No you didnt...

Only in your mind have you done this...

The rest of us see the arguments for what they are...

The Darkside clouding Jedi senses is precisely what I was telling you happens with Force Suppression...

Jedi and Sith attempt to smother the others Pre-cog when they battle...

But you simply refuse accept this, despite the movies and the novels emphasizing it, so I shouldnt even be wasting time telling this to you...

That is a vague statement that doesn't address anything combat related. You also didn't have a shred of canonical evidence just conjecture and morons like Robtard.

Prove it.

The more powerful or more skilled guy wins. Your trolling and nonfunctional brain can't discern what's going on. Ever.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your trolling and nonfunctional brain can discern what's going on. Ever.

Thanks for admitting that I do know whats going on...

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thanks for admitting that I do know whats going on...

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Quit altering my quotes you troll. Khan wins.