Originally posted by quanchi112
You didn't prove I edited that word. Concession accepted.
Yeah I did...
I saw the original post and quoted it...
You then went back and edited it; that word is the only word changed...
You are a full blown liar as well as a troll...
But thats ok; enjoy your ignorant ways while Palpatine crushes Khan on the scoreboard by a margin of 19-3...
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Originally posted by TheLordofMurderYou once again didn't prove it. Concession accepted.
Yeah I did...I saw the original post and quoted it...
You then went back and edited it; that word is the only word changed...
You are a full blown liar as well as a troll...
But thats ok; enjoy your ignorant ways while Palpatine crushes Khan on the scoreboard by a margin of 19-3...
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Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said he couldn't toss Khan. I said that wouldn't defeat Khan. Yoda tk stopped a Palp tossed pod which takes even greater force. Yoda used his tk against the body of Palp yet it didn't even ko him. There's no chance it would ko someone with the resilience of Khan since it failed to ko a geriatric.
This really makes no sense at all. Palpatine has better feats than Yoda when it comes to easily TK'ing large objects. Yoda needed to concentrate for a bit before he could TK a pod, Sidious was tossing multiple pods at the same time, also while levitating the pod he was standing on.
There is literally no way Khan could ever break free from his TK. He's strong, but he's not that strong. He''s tough, but not that tough. There is no reason Sidious couldn't just snap his neck or crush his windpipe. It's not like Khan is made of steel.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you believe hyperbole counts for anything. It doesn't. Yoda caught him off guard. It's that simple. Just as Ventress caught Kenobi and Anakin off guard despite being their inferior. None of these idiots know everything their opponents are going to throw at them. Quit making shit up.
Cad Bane wasn't force sensitive either. He beat Kenobi and you already conceded the point highly skilled guys can beat them. Cad Bane and Jango also have zero tk defenses yet they were fine.
He doesn't need any knowledge of how Palpatine will attack. Khan will take him out ASAP. You're making things up again without any proof. It's just biased debating from someone who already conceded the debate a few posts ago due to my masterful debating.Takes a bow.
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You've already conclusively lost the debate. Sids is VASTLY faster than Khan in both speed and reactions. He will end the fight right away. Khan has ZERO answer for:
1. Being TK'd all over the place for the win
2. Force Choke
3. Getting his weapon immediately pulled away from him
He has zero answer for the above, nor can he react faster than Sids can.
Right, they were able to do okay against Jedi's at times, but we've also seen these same type of guys lose more than they win against Jedi. Taking some showings where they did okay against Jedi and acting like it's the norm is why you're continually laughed at on this forum.
Further, THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE fighting jedi, so they have a huge advantage that Khan doesn't have here. Knowledge of your foe is vital in any fight. So referencing people with experience fighting Jedi, and trying to compare them with somebody who's never faced one ever... is a faulty line of logic.
The reality is this, Khan will get owned from the start of the match, and has zero answer for the things Sids can do.
Originally posted by SurturYoda had to stop its forward momentum which is much harder than to move a stationary object. You really aren't a bright one. Sidious was stalemated by Yoda's force powers anyways.
This really makes no sense at all. Palpatine has better feats than Yoda when it comes to easily TK'ing large objects. Yoda needed to concentrate for a bit before he could TK a pod, Sidious was tossing multiple pods at the same time, also while levitating the pod he was standing on.There is literally no way Khan could ever break free from his TK. He's strong, but he's not that strong. He''s tough, but not that tough. There is no reason Sidious couldn't just snap his neck or crush his windpipe. It's not like Khan is made of steel.
Sidious has never done so it's a fanfic tactic similar to cbr debating. Sidious didn't do so to Maul or Opress. Quit making things up with their power sets. My ou ignore the chars stars themselves. This isn't cbr. Move on with your life.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiNot true.
You've already conclusively lost the debate. Sids is VASTLY faster than Khan in both speed and reactions. He will end the fight right away. Khan has ZERO answer for:1. Being TK'd all over the place for the win
2. Force Choke
3. Getting his weapon immediately pulled away from himHe has zero answer for the above, nor can he react faster than Sids can.
Right, they were able to do okay against Jedi's at times, but we've also seen these same type of guys lose more than they win against Jedi. Taking some showings where they did okay against Jedi and acting like it's the norm is why you're continually laughed at on this forum.
Further, THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE fighting jedi, so they have a huge advantage that Khan doesn't have here. Knowledge of your foe is vital in any fight. So referencing people with experience fighting Jedi, and trying to compare them with somebody who's never faced one ever... is a faulty line of logic.
The reality is this, Khan will get owned from the start of the match, and has zero answer for the things Sids can do.
1. When has he done so ?
2. Khan has a longer timeframe to react and strike Palp which would sever the connection or concentration needed to maintain the grip.
3. Did you read the op you idiot.
You already agreed highly skilled users can beat them so you conceded the argument. Khan is the best in the Kelvin hands down so he is well above the norm, loser.
Nowhere does it state they need experience fighting the Jedi. You made that up as a qualifier. They are highly trained individuals. What Jedi spar with the mandalorians to aid in their training ? You just said more often than not the Jedi win so they would be losing not gaining experience. Think before you post.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not true.1. When has he done so ?
2. Khan has a longer timeframe to react and strike Palp which would sever the connection or concentration needed to maintain the grip.
3. Did you read the op you idiot.
You already agreed highly skilled users can beat them so you conceded the argument. Khan is the best in the Kelvin hands down so he is well above the norm, loser.
Nowhere does it state they need experience fighting the Jedi. You made that up as a qualifier. They are highly trained individuals. What Jedi spar with the mandalorians to aid in their training ? You just said more often than not the Jedi win so they would be losing not gaining experience. Think before you post.
Very true, you conceded already
1. He got the win vs. Maul using TK. Thus he has, and somebody superior to Khan. Somebody who actually has TK defense and is experienced in these types of fights. Khan has no answer
2. There is no longer time frame... He can do nothing about being force choked. and as we've seen he can be KO'd
They do lose more than they win. there are many skilled foes and bounty hunters than have fallen to the jedi. It happens way more than the opposite. There are EXCEPTIONS where sometimes skilled guys do well, but again, that isn't the norm. Which is the point. You're referencing certain times skilled fighters have done well, and acting like that is the norm. It isn't, which is can never beat me in a debate.
Even Jango, he did well against some Jedi, but eventually got his ish pushed in by a Jedi. The General has done well against Jedi, but then got his crap pushed in by one. Even the ones that happen to do well usually end up being killed by a Jedi at some point. Difference is, they know how to fight and combat a Jedi...Khan doesn't. He gets curbed.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiIncorrect you're the only one who concedes.
Very true, you conceded already1. He got the win vs. Maul using TK. Thus he has, and somebody superior to Khan. Somebody who actually has TK defense and is experienced in these types of fights. Khan has no answer
2. There is no longer time frame... He can do nothing about being force choked. and as we've seen he can be KO'd
They do lose more than they win. there are many skilled foes and bounty hunters than have fallen to the jedi. It happens way more than the opposite. There are EXCEPTIONS where sometimes skilled guys do well, but again, that isn't the norm. Which is the point. You're referencing certain times skilled fighters have done well, and acting like that is the norm. It isn't, which is can never beat me in a debate.
Even Jango, he did well against some Jedi, but eventually got his ish pushed in by a Jedi. The General has done well against Jedi, but then got his crap pushed in by one. Even the ones that happen to do well usually end up being killed by a Jedi at some point. Difference is, they know how to fight and combat a Jedi...Khan doesn't. He gets curbed.
1. I explained why that isn't what happened and here you go again into your repetitive loop! It's the same with you just repetitious debating points that others have already refuted.
2. So you believe Khan is comparable to any regular human ? Did you see the flick ?
So the guys who survived Jedi prove they had prior experience to said fights. That's what you claimed without even knowing because you're quite frankly stupid. Back your claim.
What do they do differently against a Jedi with their skillset ? Think this through my dim witted stupid virginenemy.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yoda had to stop its forward momentum which is much harder than to move a stationary object. You really aren't a bright one.
Which doesn't change the fact Sidious just all around has better TK feats. Yoda..slowly levitated an x-wing, and slowly but surely flung a single pod at Palpatine. Did you kind of notice how Yoda wasn't just casually chucking pods at him? Since there were plenty of pods to go around and remember stopping this guy could have ENDED the war and also ended the whole evil takeover Sidious did. So there was no reason to hold back or worry about causing too much destruction to the senate chamber, since the alternative was far worse.
Sidious was stalemated by Yoda's force powers anyways.
He tried to fry him with lightning and Yoda absorbed it until it overloaded Sidious.
Sidious has never done so it's a fanfic tactic similar to cbr debating. Sidious didn't do so to Maul or Opress. Quit making things up with their power sets. My ou ignore the chars stars themselves. This isn't cbr. Move on with your life.
We literally see him moving objects that weigh much more than Khan. Can you explain how Khan breaks free of the TK grip? You even admitted he could TK him.
Originally posted by SurturThat isn't a direct comparison you feat whore. That's far better since we see how they both fare in the same scene that decades later with an older Yoda as some weird baseline. We see Yoda matched him in force powers and stopped the pod while flying directly at him. Yoda was also older and shitter in ESB. Yoda doesn't typically toss pods at anyone but we see he stopped one with great speed coming his way which is harder than moving a stationary object. Just because Yoda didn't try something isn't proof he was unable to do so, dolt.
Which doesn't change the fact Sidious just all around has better TK feats. Yoda..slowly levitated an x-wing, and slowly but surely flung a single pod at Palpatine. Did you kind of notice how Yoda wasn't just casually chucking pods at him? Since there were plenty of pods to go around and remember stopping this guy could have ENDED the war and also ended the whole evil takeover Sidious did. So there was no reason to hold back or worry about causing too much destruction to the senate chamber, since the alternative was far worse.He tried to fry him with lightning and Yoda absorbed it until it overloaded Sidious.
We literally see him moving objects that weigh much more than Khan. Can you explain how Khan breaks free of the TK grip? You even admitted he could TK him.
So he stalemated him.
When has Palp tk defeated someone in this manner in a fair fight. This isn't what you imagine it's what the characters do. You cbr posters never understood that.
Originally posted by Surtur
Oh Christ Almighty.Does he or does he not have the ability to levitate someone the size and weight of Khan? Yes or no. Just answer. Does he possess this ability to utterly prevent this punk from laying a finger on him?
He's just trolling you saying it's not in character for him to do that:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7hBZNsPnyg
Starting at 0:35 he walks through 2 Mandalorian warriors force choking them.. Then at 1:02 he pins 2 more Mandalorians high up on the wall choking them out, before even walking into the room himself! Then finally at 1:46 he begins his fight against Maul and Opress by Force Pinning (and crushing) them against the wall. And that's against 2 Powerful Force warriors. What he's facing in Khan is just 1 opponent and one who has no resistance to the Force.
He does let them go and fight them in Sabers for unknown reasons. But even then he ENDS his FIRST fight with Maul by KO'ing him with TK in the middle of the Saber fight at 2:45.
Then after killing Maul's brother and waiting for Maul to regain conciousness he fights Maul again. And at the end of his 2ND fight with @4:25 he just tosses Maul around like he's nothing.
This whole fight is Canon to the movies btw.
This is why Quanchi is obsessed over me. I've made a fool out of him too many times 😆
As I said, Khan gets casually choked out while Sidious is looking in the other direction reading the morning paper 😎
Originally posted by Darth ThorSo when in the same room he lets the mandalorians aim their weapons before he force chokes. They did not shoot. This proves my point he doesn't do this right out of the gate.
He's just trolling you saying it's not in character for him to do that:?v=-7hBZNsPnyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7hBZNsPnyg
Starting at 0:35 he walks through 2 Mandalorian warriors force choking them.. Then at 1:02 he pins 2 more Mandalorians high up on the wall choking them out, before even walking into the room himself! Then finally at 1:46 he begins his fight against Maul and Opress by Force Pinning (and crushing) them against the wall. And that's against 2 Powerful Force warriors. What he's facing in Khan is just 1 opponent and one who has no resistance to the Force.
He does let them go and fight them in Sabers for unknown reasons. But even then he ENDS his FIRST fight with Maul by KO'ing him with TK in the middle of the Saber fight at 2:45.
Then after killing Maul's brother and waiting for Maul to regain conciousness he fights Maul again. And at the end of his 2ND fight with @4:25 he just tosses Maul around like he's nothing.
This whole fight is Canon to the movies btw.
This is why Quanchi is obsessed over me. I've made a fool out of him too many times 😆
As I said, Khan gets casually choked out while Sidious is looking in the other direction reading the morning paper 😎
Secondly he attacks two guards before being in the same room which is irrelevant to a fight in which two combatants start in the same location.
We see Maul fight on despite the tk attacks. He doesn't press any advantage over Maul. Maul also doesn't have the resilience or the cellular regeneration of Khan making it an unfair comparison. Try to be relevant here, d. Troll.
Khan guns him down. In every instance save the one in which the guards weren't in the same room he's never ko'd anyone in this fashion. That's irrelevant to this fight since they are in the same room. We see how slow Palpatine has been to attack. Khan wins.
If an injured slower guy with one hand can do it so can Khan.