Chancellor Palpatine vs Khan

Started by quanchi11230 pages

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Khan dies horribly...
Based on?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on?

Facts and common sense...

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Facts and common sense...

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Such as ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Such as ?

Such as the mountain of facts present in this very thread...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Such as the mountain of facts present in this very thread...
Another thread in which you can't articulate your points. Ok, Khan wins.

22-3...

Palpatine wins...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
22-3...

Palpatine wins...

Evidence>>>votes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Evidence>>>votes.

The votes are based upon the evidence...

Palpatine wins...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The votes are based upon the evidence...

Palpatine wins...

Then prove it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then prove it.

The evidence has already spoken...

Sorry, but you wont get a circular argument from me over info thats already been posted...

The evidence has been speaking for many, many, pages now and there can be no doubt...

Palpatine wins...

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Palpatine can casually hurl senate pods. Khan was getting visibly phased by Spock's punches, which certainly don't have the same force behind them as massive senate pods. Palpatine can logically crush Khan's neck with minimal effort, and thanks to his precognition, he can do this before Khan even reacts. Or he can just grab his phaser from him and shoot him with it.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Palpatine can casually hurl senate pods. Khan was getting visibly phased by Spock's punches, which certainly don't have the same force behind them as massive senate pods. Palpatine can logically crush Khan's neck with minimal effort, and thanks to his precognition, he can do this before Khan even reacts. Or he can just grab his phaser from him and shoot him with it.

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Palpatine wins...

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The evidence has already spoken...

Sorry, but you wont get a circular argument from me over info thats already been posted...

The evidence has been speaking for many, many, pages now and there can be no doubt...

Palpatine wins...

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So you post just to posture but really concede. Ok, Khan wins.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
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Palpatine wins...

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Another sidekick type post. Shameful.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Palpatine can casually hurl senate pods. Khan was getting visibly phased by Spock's punches, which certainly don't have the same force behind them as massive senate pods. Palpatine can logically crush Khan's neck with minimal effort, and thanks to his precognition, he can do this before Khan even reacts. Or he can just grab his phaser from him and shoot him with it.
There are no senate pods here. Palpatine was manhandled by a one handed cyborg. That's about as silly as the point you tried to make. Far less force than a senate pod.

Why didn't Palpatine crush Maul, Opress, Vader, Luke, or Yoda since their necks aren't very durable.

Palpatine's precognition didn't even alert him to Vader hoisting his geriatric frame up and over the ledge after Vader manhandled him over there. See I cite evidence to counter your claims you just imagine things.

When does Palpatine tk blasters to him and gun people down with them ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
There are no senate pods here.

Not the point, which is that Palpatine's telekinesis is powerful enough to break Khan.


Palpatine was manhandled by a one handed cyborg.

Unless if Khan is standing right behind Palpatine, has a reactor shaft next to him, wears lightsaber-resistant armor, and is a Force user capable of casually ripping bolted durasteel, why does this matter?


That's about as silly as the point you tried to make. Far less force than a senate pod.

Um, yes? The senate pods being tossed down at Yoda were significantly deadlier than the punches Spock threw, meaning that Palpatine can apply more than enough force via his TK to kill Khan, even if we ignore his ability to just rip his trachea out.


Why didn't Palpatine crush Maul, Opress, Vader, Luke, or Yoda since their necks aren't very durable.

Think: Palpatine explicitly didn't want to kill Maul, he was clearly torturing Luke, he was toying with Oppress (literally turning his lightsaber off and turning his back to him), and all of the people you mentioned are Force users. You know, just like the padawan Anakin who casually landed on an airspeeder at terminal velocity without suffering a scratch.


Palpatine's precognition didn't even alert him to Vader hoisting his geriatric frame up and over the ledge after Vader manhandled him over there. See I cite evidence to counter your claims you just imagine things.

And is Palpatine distracted manically torturing someone while Khan literally stands right next to him?

Of course, even if that contrived scenario were to occur, Palpatine's lightning would've killed Khan pretty quickly, or at least forced him to drop Palpatine. Vader could tank it for a while because, you know, he's a powerful Force wielder.


When does Palpatine tk blasters to him and gun people down with them ?

When does Khan pick people up and toss them down reactor shafts, since we're being that ridiculous now?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Not the point, which is that Palpatine's telekinesis is powerful enough to break Khan.
Ok, I simply can't resist not further delving into this ridiculous claim. Yoda was also powerful enough to stop a pod with a lot of momentum from striking him. When Yoda tk'd Palpatine did it break him ? Give me one canon example of someone breaking a body with sheer tk force alone.

Did Palpatine break Maul or Opress with tk ? We both know he didn't so why do you believe he breaks Khan. It is wishful thinking.


Unless if Khan is standing right behind Palpatine, has a reactor shaft next to him, wears lightsaber-resistant armor, and is a Force user capable of casually ripping bolted durasteel, why does this matter?
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So you believe Palpatine has a Lightsaber here ? I'll ask you again to read the op. Palpatine didn't have a lightsaber when Vader did it either. Why do you think I said it ? My point is he was unable despite his precognition to stop a one handed cyborg from picking him up and killing him. Did Palpatine rip Vader in half ? If not why do you insist on exaggerating what Palpatine can do here.


Um, yes? The senate pods being tossed down at Yoda were significantly deadlier than the punches Spock threw, meaning that Palpatine can apply more than enough force via his TK to kill Khan, even if we ignore his ability to just rip his trachea out.

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Same can be said about Yoda's tk yet that didn't kill Palpatine. It just knocked him over so where do you pull this from since the tk attacks used on a human body don't have the effect you're claiming ? The pods had to connect to hurt Yoda. That's the point. He can't tk rip apart someone's body unless you have proof of him easily doing so.

Vader's grip also had a greater effect on Palpatinr than Yoda's force powers. One hand was something Palp was unable to break free of to save his own life.


Think: Palpatine explicitly didn't want to kill Maul, he was clearly torturing Luke, he was toying with Oppress (literally turning his lightsaber off and turning his back to him), and all of the people you mentioned are Force users. You know, just like the padawan Anakin who casually landed on an airspeeder at terminal velocity without suffering a scratch.
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So none of this counts. Oh brother. Palpatine doesn't have to kill he can just ko. He did kill Opress but the tk attacks didn't even seriously hurt him. Palpatine even announced Luke would now die and after thirty seconds of continued exposure he walked away like a migraine suddenly vanished without any lingering effects.

So what ? How many Jedi died to order 66 when they were shot ? Vader overpowered him with one hand. He didn't use the force to toss him he did it the old fashioned way.


And is Palpatine distracted manically torturing someone while Khan literally stands right next to him?

Of course, even if that contrived scenario were to occur, Palpatine's lightning would've killed Khan pretty quickly, or at least forced him to drop Palpatine. Vader could tank it for a while because, you know, he's a powerful Force wielder.

When does Khan pick people up and toss them down reactor shafts, since we're being that ridiculous now? [/B]

So you concede precognition when his focus is on casually torturing someone. Khan is stronger than Vader as well as quicker. Khan has superhuman cellular regeneration. Did you forget the film ? He won a fight without even throwing a punch because he recovers at a superhuman level. It failed to even harm Luke who doesn't recover at a cellular superhuman level.

This is the problem most here aren't familiar with the characters and simply support the Star Wars one because they like him or her more. Vader died pretty quickly after. He is the only one unable to tank fl. Luke's bare skin resisted the fl better than Vader.

Khan beats him up and crushes his cranium. I was just citing evidence of someone physically overpowering the weaker Palpatine who once again doesn't have a light saber.

I once again suggest you read the op.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Another sidekick type post. Shameful.

Palpatine wins...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Palpatine wins...
Based on ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ?

The mountains of evidence present in this thread combined with the ability to think logically...

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