Originally posted by AncientPower
I've never claimed he literally dominated them, I claimed that he sent his power through the Force to every Sith in the galaxy and they submitted to him. It was Wyyrlok who resisted and caused the divide. Not that it matters because even Wyyrlok himself saw Krayt's presence as a raging storm of power through the Force.
The master of the backpedal as always, I see.
So he impressed them all with his power? I'm pretty sure someone who can change the very atmosphere of a planet with his mere presence would also impress them. Regardless, if they submitted and were truly in such awe by his power, Wyyrlok couldn't have caused the divide, they'd all be scared sh!tless of what would happen to them if they turned against Krayt.
Speaking of sh!t, you're full of it.
Right, so now we've clarified that what AP actually meant is that Krayt spoke forcefully, rather than dominate anyone in any relevant sense, how does this compare to announce one's presence to everything in existence again?
Originally posted by AncientPowerI wouldn't want to piggyback on Urs by reiterating your lack of comprehension skills, so I won't. 🙁
So ROTS Sidious ~ Yoda > TPM Sidious > Plagueis ~ Yoda?LMFAO.
Might want to try not piggybacking next time.Might not want to continue making such terrible blunders, that others come out of the woodwork to correct and mock you. 😬
Yes of course it can be 'interpreted' in a number of ways when the foremost trait of import among Sith is power.Quite, because ruling for a century unchallenged, and bringing about a golden age where the territories of the Sith were at their most expansive, is a far greater an accomplishment that being uber stronk. 👆
So no, I'm afraid that's not the only reading at all.
I'll accept that as readily as Dynasty of Evil's.There goes the Ragnos hype then. 🙁
Yes and Krayt's power is focused on sustaining himself, which whilst it certainly makes his feats at this time more impressive, considering said diversion of power, it doesn't however change the fact that in over-all Force prowess, Muur's spirit is stronger.Through the occassional healing trance, there is no evidence to suggest Krayt was constantly "sustaining himself" using his powuur. Otherwise his condition would have remained static, not deteriorated. On the other hand we know that the Vong implants were slowly consuming his body, and making him weak.
So naw, Muur was only more powerful after Krayt had been made a shadow of his former self. So what feats does he have that compare to fighting Abeloth?
It is where an actual comparison of his feats come into account. He definitely improves drastically but not by multiple. If so he'd be roflstomping both Wyyrlok and Cade with far greater ease.On what basis? Wyyrlok and Krayt never fought prior and against a half-trained Cade the latter held his own embarrassingly well, yet against a far powerful Skywalker he dominated. Moreover Krayt went from being mind****ed by a bunch of holocrons to shrugging off Wyyrlok's telepathic assault with ease
And that's without considering the gross disparity between his performances against Abeloth and Skywalker.
Source for his power being preserved? I know you're pulling this out of your ass (again) because all it did was preserve his spirit, not his Force reserves. The only difference between him and other spirits is that he was preserved by a Talisman instead of a dark side site.I provided multiple sources in the past which refer to Muur's power being contained within the holocron*, to which you claimed that that was the power of the Talisman, not Muur, that was being described, and now you denying this? It's one or the other dear. Neither of which really serve your case.I've never made that claim, only you.
*Here's another to remind you:
None of which says Muur > Pall.Oh dear rather missed the point there didn't you? Let me explain it to you in simple terms. In the beginning Ajunta Pall appeared to be the strongest of the Exiles, claiming the title of Dark Lord, but after a while his authority evidently crumbled into a free-for-all, leaving it unclear whether or not Muur and the others came to surpass him, or whether his superiority was ever really solid at all.
Or in other words, your argument that Ragnos > Muur is based on assumptions, not facts.
Tenfold more powerful? Oh Beni, that wouldn't be your fanon would it? Given it is confirmed that each generation of Banite Sith grew in power, what you've gone and done is attempt to quantify that with no basis at all. Given Bane and Zannah were very much close equals without hax, the actual increases in power are absolutely debatable here, nor do we have any reason to believe said increases were even remotely similar or as broad as those the latter Banite Sith experienced.Lol, irrelevant I'm afraid. Zannah would have obviously grown in power after Bane's death. There being around 30 generations between them and Plagueis over the course of 1,000 years, so yes even by the lowest of estimates Plagueis should be many many times more powerful than them both.
Fortress spanning Force barriers? Has someone forgotten about Krayt's peers as a mere Jedi? I believe you have.Who Kenobi? 😂
Force Rends are very impressive, Krayt being the primary cause of the galaxy being dominated by the dark side of the Force to a degree not seen since the days of Revan's Sith Empire seems just as impressive.
Again, Krayt's the primary reason the galaxy has been consumed by the dark side to a degree not seen since the Jedi Civil War.Lol, sounds like another fantasy feat, care to substantiate that with some kind of source? And why should I care about how strong the dark side was during Revan's time? I'm failing to recall it being notably pervasive.
Sidious crutching. 😬 Besides, Dark Transfer does all of that and with far greater efficiency. Not including the fact that unlike Plagueis, Krayt could bring himself back from the dead, such was his mastery.
Dark Transfer can do nothing of the sort, nor has Krayt ever demonstrated such a level of ability. And he didn't bring himself back from the dead, merely the brink. Please stop making up feats.
On the other hand Plagueis can in fact resurrect people, repeatedly. Such was his mastery.
And as far as "Sidious crutching" goes a rather ironic claim given how you've resorted to propping Shitiate up based off this craptastic powerscaling. I suppose clinging to this losing battle has made you desperate. 🙁
Prove Prime Muur </~ Krayt? We've been discussing those quotes this entire time, or did you suddenly lose all sense?I know right? And yet still you've managed to prove so woefully little.
AP, Wollf and Beni, move your discussion here:
Move it to here, then:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=615803&pagenumber=2
Originally posted by AzrongerNo you. uhuh
Move it to here, then:http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=615803&pagenumber=2