Originally posted by zopzop
Well Whor hasn't been around as long as Thor, so we have to compare their fights vs a common foe. She did INFINITY better than Thor ever did.
Who made up that rule?
Going by your route, he absolutely buries her if we consider all the crazy things he's done. I just don't wanna hang my hat on one showing albeit impressive and conclude that this fight is a forgone conclusion.
And the Odinson and Odin dynamic is far different from Jane Odin. If we take things at full face value then yes, Jane has done much better than Thor vs his father. But there are underlying themes that we can't just over look. The most glaring one is how Mjolnir is treated currently. Odin who imparted a portion of his own power(Odinforce) that makes Mjolnir what it is has inexplicably lost all dominion over his own creation.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Who made up that rule?Going by your route, he absolutely buries her if we consider all the crazy things he's done. I just don't wanna hang my hat on one showing albeit impressive and conclude that this fight is a forgone conclusion.
And the Odinson and Odin dynamic is far different from Jane Odin. If we take things at full face value then yes, Jane has done much better than Thor vs his father. But there are underlying themes that we can't just over look. The most glaring one is how Mjolnir is treated currently. Odin who imparted a portion of his own power(Odinforce) that makes Mjolnir what it is has inexplicably lost all dominion over his own creation.
THIS...plus jane is still relatively new. shes still riding off that ''all new- all different" high. im waiting to read the the Untold Origin of Mjolnir story because there some splaining to do
Originally posted by Cogito
50/50
i think so too wonder women jobbs so much its amazing that the gods dont strip away her powers i can picture jane losing
this fight is like she -thing alicia vs she -hulk we all thought she -hulk would whup that ass but she-thing kicked she-hulks beautiful green lucious ass
Originally posted by Zack M
Odin isn't what he used to be. He's a pushover nowadays.
What are you basing Arron's Odin being a pushover on exactly?
Because the only defining moments we have for his power are: Old King Thor vs. Old Galactus (Mind you, the Odin Force was also weakened and it was still a fight from beings clearly cosmic in scale) and Odin beating and trapping the Mother Storm (Which is a sentient Galaxy sized tempest that away at everything in it's past including star systems).
And if you aren't including Aaron's Thor then you must be referring to Fraction or Gillen's Thor and I don't know how that's possible because the former established Odin as Mutli-Universal in scale at his best and losing to Galactus at his worst and the latter implied that TWOS are actually Beyonder's and had the combined grouping of Marvel's Hell Lords (Mephisto, Dormammu, Cytorrak, Chthon etc.) shit themselves at the prospect of facing the Serpent (And Mephisto with a fear crown forged from the Serpent's power would have taken the seat of the Devil and brought the Multiverse to destruction or whatever) and at his worst had one panel of Zeus/Odin clashing and the Universe shaking. The only other writer I can think off the top of my head writing Odin recently is Starlin and that was only for two panels, one of which put Odin in the same rank as Galactus/Celestials in terms of cosmic power scaling and the writer of Angela who had Odin banish an entire realm (I.e. Universe to a secret plane of existence).
So how exactly is Odin a push over? Unless I'm forgetting something.
And mind you, Odin has been appearing A LOT more in the last decade than he has in the past and that almost always means shitty showings so he's been doing relatively well I'd argue.
As for this fight, I think this is an awesome fight with Jane being noticeably more powerful/versatile overall but Wonder Woman being a lot more experienced but I don't know how much that counts when Jane can call on Mjolnir and have it blast Wonder Woman to pieces without having to do much.
So Jane Thor 5-8/10? Not much has changed in that regard tbh. Except Jane Thor has had a lot less appearances so her using the Mother Storm is far more likely than Thor using the God Blast or any of his other high end attacks against Diana to blast her away.
Jane's tendency to use Mjolnir as a flying bludgeon is also a brutal tactic when the thing can tear through planets and fly at speeds far faster than light. Jane and Diana could literally be trading punches and Mjolnir could bash Diana's head from the back. It's like fighting a herald with 3 arms, one of which is far more powerful than a herald and can fly.