In the mist of combat, we will always make Thor return to harrowing combat. Nearly invisible, Thor is given a handicap in most situations with speedsters. Being squad-centric, cap's focusing on battles individually against team members, makes Thor always resort to explosive earth-shattering actions. Towards a somber subject with speed, the super soldier makes Thor's combat with him grim with no capture.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11119/111197929/4864562-with+mjiolnir+she+blitz+some+giants.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11119/111197929/4864563-with+mjiolnir+she+blitz+some+giants2.jpgYa, super straight line.
Seriously? She is being dragged around by a magic hammer.
Originally posted by abhilegend
😬Seriously? She is being dragged around by a magic hammer.
😂 Yes. Seriously serious with an extra dash of serious.
"Mjolnir....this time....let me steer."
verb
verb: steer; 3rd person present: steers; past tense: steered; past participle: steered; gerund or present participle: steering1.
(of a person)guide or control the movement of (a vehicle, vessel, or aircraft), for example by turning a wheel or operating a rudder.
Abhiligend reads this (And I'm assuming he knows what steer means) and thinks:
"Seriously? She is being dragged around by a magic hammer."
Originally posted by abhilegend
Except mjolnir does not requires direct muscle control as it has a psionic link with Jane.Where is it shown that it needs direct control?
See above. Mjolnir does not have an autopilot feature or a built in supercomputer. to compensate for slower reflexes in high speed combat.
😂 Oh I don't know, maybe 50 years of comics starting from the silver age showing Thor spinning and pointing his hammer in the direction he needs to fly.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Diana flat out says they are too close in speed but her experience gives her the edge.Let me guess, Thor can type quintillions of lines in the time it took a human to blink, eh?
You posted that scan in support of Diana's speed by her getting the upper hand over Supergirl. In that very scan, she literally says that she got the upper hand due to her experience (or Kara's inexperience in combat) so it's irrelevant as experience has bridged gaps between humans and demi-gods in comics.
No, but she did perform brain surgery on all of Doctor Strange's former patients (I remember counting like a dozen in one panel but there were more in the background), including the initial incision through the scalp/bone/tissue/brain and into nerve clusters to manually remove a magical malignant tumor (That fights back).
Originally posted by Damborgson
To be able to travel at such a speed and steer, would imply she has the reaction time to keep up with the speed of the hammer.Unless she's just screaming her head off the whole time blind and disoriented while Mjolnir pulls her?
Comics don't work that way.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😂 Yes. Seriously serious with an extra dash of serious."Mjolnir....this time....let [b]me
steer."Abhiligend reads this (And I'm assuming he knows what steer means) and thinks:
"Seriously? She is being dragged around by a magic hammer." [/B]
[code]psionic /sʌɪˈɒnɪk/
adjective
relating to or denoting the practical use of psychic powers or paranormal phenomena.[/code]
Where is it shown that she has to physically steer the hammer?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
See above. Mjolnir does not have an autopilot feature or a built in supercomputer. to compensate for slower reflexes in high speed combat.
GL rings don't compensate for slower reflexes. And unlike mjolnir it doesn't works on psionic links with users too.
😂 Oh I don't know, maybe 50 years of comics starting from the silver age showing Thor spinning and pointing his hammer in the direction he needs to fly.
And getting dragged around by the hammer too stated by Thor himself.
It's hilarious how often that comes up.
You posted that scan in support of Diana's speed by her getting the upper hand over Supergirl. In that very scan, she literally says that she got the upper hand due to her experience (or Kara's inexperience in combat) so it's irrelevant as experience has bridged gaps between humans and demi-gods in comics.
She also said that they are too close in speed.
If she can get upper hand on Supergirl in speed due to her experience, there is nothing stopping her doing the same thing to Jane who is nowhere near that speed.
No, but she did perform brain surgery on all of Doctor Strange's former patients (I remember counting like a dozen in one panel but there were more in the background), including the initial incision through the scalp/bone/tissue/brain and into nerve clusters to manually remove a magical malignant tumor (That fights back).
Big deal. Supergirl typed quintillions of lines of code in the time it took Cat Grant to blink. That's a feat even Wally West would be proud to have.
She can also fight Flash at Superspeed. That's beyond any Thor's capability.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That would be like saying Dawn here has FTL reflexes just because she is steering Surfer's board.Comics don't work that way.
Except it's an actual super human behind the hammer, not whatever nonsense was going on there. Apples and Oranges.
In this case, the point is valid.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Except it's an actual super human behind the hammer, not whatever nonsense was going on there. Apples and Oranges.In this case, the point is valid.
Both have psionic connections with the users and don't need physical steering. It's not a car.
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Originally posted by abhilegend
Do you know what psionic means?[code]psionic /sʌɪˈɒnɪk/
adjective
relating to or denoting the practical use of psychic powers or paranormal phenomena.[/code]Where is it shown that she has to physically steer the hammer?
Originally posted by abhilegend
GL rings don't compensate for slower reflexes. And unlike mjolnir it doesn't works on psionic links with users too.And getting dragged around by the hammer too stated by Thor himself.
It's hilarious how often that comes up.
She also said that they are too close in speed.
If she can get upper hand on Supergirl in speed due to her experience, there is nothing stopping her doing the same thing to Jane who is nowhere near that speed.
Big deal. Supergirl typed quintillions of lines of code in the time it took Cat Grant to blink. That's a feat even Wally West would be proud to have.
She can also fight Flash at Superspeed. That's beyond any Thor's capability.
I don't understand the point of these two posts, do you have an actual concise argument?
If she does control the hammer psychically why does it matter as long as in practice she has super human reflexes and is able to manually steer the hammer and in practice operate as a superhuman flying brick that can fight at FTL speeds? Not that this argument has merit. How do these "psychic powers" of Thor's impact her, blocking, aiming, punching, hitting while flying with Mjolnir?
Also, Thor has always thrown the hammer and gotten dragged classically for flight but he has always been the one to steer Mjolnir. There was never even any sentience until recently so I don't see your point.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Except it's an actual super human behind the hammer, not whatever nonsense was going on there. Apples and Oranges.In this case, the point is valid.
It literally says that Surfer is flying with Dawn steering....and the last time Dawn was in charge they crashed into a planet.
Not that it MATTERS. The Power Cosmic is completely different from Mjolnir. It's designed to navigate the depths of space, imbuing the user with cosmic senses to navigate said space including geometrical positioning and so on.
Green Lanterns and Power Cosmic wielders are completely different from Thor and is irrelevant. Han Solo puts his ship into hyperspace to cross the galaxy but he doesn't matter here either as he has a navigation system that routes paths around and through systems.
Anyways, this thread has gotten sidetracked with the usual nonsense that certain posters bring.
This is a good fight I guess but I think Jane is superior in power and is even more pronounced in speed than the Odinson to counter whatever advantage Diana has in that regard. That leaves her with experience, superior skill and more thirst for blood.
Competitive fight but the Mother Storm makes this an unfair fight when called.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Except it works the same way Surfer's board does.Both have psionic connections with the users and don't need physical steering. It's not a car.
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Mjolnir works the same way the power cosmic does? Again, apples and oranges.
One ridiculous showing from some other character doesn't somehow transfer to Jane anyway. As similar as Jane and Surfer and Mjolnir and the power cosmic seem to be in your eyes for whatever reason.
Not to mention Dawn was clearly being protected by Surfer given that she was...you know, in space.
Im glad you learned the word psionic recently though, given how much you've been using it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't understand the point of these two posts, do you have an actual concise argument?
Do you?
If she does control the hammer psychically why does it matter as long as in practice she has super human reflexes and is able to manually steer the hammer and in practice operate as a superhuman flying brick that can fight at FTL speeds?
What the **** is this gibberish? Her steering mjolnir psychically has shit with physical reflexes.
Not that this argument has merit. How do these "psychic powers" of Thor's impact her, blocking, aiming, punching, hitting while flying with Mjolnir?
Where has she done any of these? All I see is her getting dragged behind mjolnir.
Also, Thor has always thrown the hammer and gotten dragged classically for flight but he has always been the one to steer Mjolnir. There was never even any sentience until recently so I don't see your point.
Mjolnir has always had a psychic link with Thor. He doesn't manually steers it. It's not a car.
Don't be absurd.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It literally says that Surfer is flying with Dawn steering....and the last time Dawn was in charge they crashed into a planet.
Just like Jane is steering Mjolnir. Or Hal is steering his ring.
Not that it MATTERS. The Power Cosmic is completely different from Mjolnir. It's designed to navigate the depths of space, imbuing the user with cosmic senses to navigate said space including geometrical positioning and so on.
Are you saying Dawn had power cosmic there to steer Surfer's board?
Green Lanterns and Power Cosmic wielders are completely different from Thor and is irrelevant. Han Solo puts his ship into hyperspace to cross the galaxy but he doesn't matter here either as he has a navigation system that routes paths around and through systems.
This is ****ing hilarious in everything.
"Mjolnir is not like anything else in comics. It's all Thor with the FTL reflexes and shit".
Thorbags never change.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Mjolnir works the same way the power cosmic does? Again, apples and oranges.One ridiculous showing from some other character doesn't somehow transfer to Jane anyway. As similar as Jane and Surfer and Mjolnir and the power cosmic seem to be in your eyes for whatever reason.
Not to mention Dawn was clearly being protected by Surfer given that she was...you know, in space.
Im glad you learned the word psionic recently though, given how much you've been using it.
More mental gymnastics to prove how steering Surfer's sentient board is totally not the same as steering sentient mjolnir.
We get it guys, Thor is the fastest there is because nobody else in comics flies with aid of a weapon or board or anything. Thor is totally unique in that regard.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Do you?What the **** is this gibberish? Her steering mjolnir psychically has shit with physical reflexes.
Where has she done any of these? All I see is her getting dragged behind mjolnir.
Mjolnir has always had a psychic link with Thor. He doesn't manually steers it. It's not a car.
Don't be absurd.
"...guided with the strength of my own right arm."
🙂
Thor manually steers Mjolnir. Until Aaron, Mjolnir was obviously intelligent for a hammer and could do all kinds of shit but it's primary function in self propulsion was returning to Thor's hand because of the enchantment. Other than that, Thor spun the hammer, hung on and pointed in the direction he wanted to go through magic.
If she psychically is steering the hammer and in control how is able to control such intricate flight patterns without sufficient reflexes to compensate?
Again:
What is your point or argument here? Are you just trying to argue because you have an uncomfortable compulsion or? I'll battle zone you on the topic. 🙂
