Beast vs Sabretooth vs Wolverine

The version of Beast you're using gets killed, FAST. Don't know why you hindered him like he is some kind of Herald or something. He's fodder here.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I pick on it, because the Frenzy fight has been debunked, lol.

Also, because I was led to believe Beast when toe to toe against WM, when in fact he mostly just used his superior agility. He didn't slam him into a wall, he diverted him. WM slammed himself into a wall.

You also didn't see my scans. If Wolverine has a speed advantage over Beast....Sabes is even faster than Wolvy. If Wolverine has a skills advantage....Sabes is even deadlier.

It's all there, in a canon comic.

And as you have said, Sabes is stronger than Beast.

As to where I got my idea? Here is my scan again.
http://imgur.com/fkQrUPF

'A stutter step behind him in every respect. Almost as fast, almost as strong, almost as tough, almost as deadly...that's Wolverine.

There you have it. Wolverine is a smidge behind Sabes in every respect.

no, i already explained to you that it was beast slamming him. wonder man was comming at him and beast flipped him with his legs sending him into the wall. i already gave explanations dont need to write it again.

so just because beast had some kind of amp we didnt know about when fighting frenzy, you dont believe your own eyes which show you beast slamming wonder man into the wall with his legs?

i know wolverine and sabretooth by far better than a hyperbole statement from wolverine vol2 #126. even after the second upgrade wolverine most of the time owned sabretooth. he was easily portrayed during the mojoeiry of their encounters as more skilled faster and more agile. sabretooth always had the strength advanatge over him and hatered towards logan working for him. why wont you post the fight at the x mansion where wolverine is tired of creed and really puts him out. sabretooth only got superior to logan in every single aspect once he got his third and last upgrade in wolverine #166. after that he somehow for some reason lost his upgrade and once again became wolverines inferior. comics events of wolverine and sabretooth >>>>>>> some random hyperbole statement means to boast the main villian.

Originally posted by carver9
The version of Beast you're using gets killed, FAST. Don't know why you hindered him like he is some kind of Herald or something. He's fodder here.

because it takes a herald to be able to knock out wolverine and sabretooth?

Originally posted by Dareangel
because it takes a herald to be able to knock out wolverine and sabretooth?

Reread my post. I said you hindered him like he is a Herald or something. Also, Wolverine and Sabertooth have both endured attacks from Heralds.

Originally posted by Dareangel
because it takes a herald to be able to knock out wolverine and sabretooth?

Originally posted by deathslash
at least 70% of the time a character does have to be herald level in order to Ko either of them. Hell, half the time, not even heralds can knock them out. I've lost count of how many times Logan has endured a beating from the hulk. Sabretooth has taken punches from Luke cage, colossus, rogue, etc.

mister x, gorgon, daredevil, captain america, spider- man, rogue are all heralds right? both of them knocked each other out as well. dont try to go there. every street has showings of survivng and taking hits from very strong bricks.

Originally posted by Dareangel
no, i already explained to you that it was beast slamming him. wonder man was comming at him and beast flipped him with his legs sending him into the wall. i already gave explanations dont need to write it again.

so just because beast had some kind of amp we didnt know about when fighting frenzy, you dont believe your own eyes which show you beast slamming wonder man into the wall with his legs?

i know wolverine and sabretooth by far better than a hyperbole statement from wolverine vol2 #126. even after the second upgrade wolverine most of the time owned sabretooth. he was easily portrayed during the mojoeiry of their encounters as more skilled faster and more agile. sabretooth always had the strength advanatge over him and hatered towards logan working for him. why wont you post the fight at the x mansion where wolverine is tired of creed and really puts him out. sabretooth only got superior to logan in every single aspect once he got his third and last upgrade in wolverine #166. after that he somehow for some reason lost his upgrade and once again became wolverines inferior. comics events of wolverine and sabretooth >>>>>>> some random hyperbole statement means to boast the main villian.

My own eyes show that Beast is diverting WOnder Man, nothing more, nothing less. Beast's own words confirm this - it was his athleticism, not his athleticism and strength.

It's basically a trope.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeadlyDodging

It's entirely possible for Beast to add onto Wonderman's momentum.

It's impossible to say how much of it was wonderman's own force and how much Beast added when he redirected him.

Either way it's a good combat showing, not so much for strength.

👆

I'm surprised it's actually being discussed. It's not rocket science.

👆 Same. From the way it was sold, however, it sounded like Beast beat the snot out of Wonderman and KOed him.

Guys, let's back it up a bit here. Beast was kissed by Infectia, which halted the virus that decreased his intelligence. He recovered from both, retaining the extra strength he gained. It was a permanent upgrade as far as I recall.

The Frenzy feat is still legit for that reason. I'm not supporting Beast here--he hasn't been written that way in forever; but, he was being pushed for a small time with that upgrade. He really did tear tanks apart and shit.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
My own eyes show that Beast is diverting WOnder Man, nothing more, nothing less. Beast's own words confirm this - it was his athleticism, not his athleticism and strength.

It's basically a trope.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeadlyDodging

yes his athletism allowed him to do that move fast enough with the right felixbility. again, you are ignoring the facts in the scan. you see beast having his legs up which means he used them, as well as a sound effect that is telling us he made a contact. its not a rocket science to realize beast used his legs to slam wonderman into the wall. considering the levels of durability wonder man has, and specially then, remember during those days he traded blows with thor, its really unlikely that if he runs into a wall by his force alone he will be knocked out. even if wonder man added momentum of his own, it should take big amount of strength to add to that in order to knock him out

alright so his upgrade was Permanent? because someone here claimed it was for brief period of time and was gone. can people just admit the real facts without the need to hide something so they can win an internet argument? i mean just present the facts as they are.

Originally posted by Dareangel
yes his athletism allowed him to do that move fast enough with the right felixbility. again, you are ignoring the facts in the scan. you see beast having his legs up which means he used them, as well as a sound effect that is telling us he made a contact. its not a rocket science to realize beast used his legs to slam wonderman into the wall. considering the levels of durability wonder man has, and specially then, remember during those days he traded blows with thor, its really unlikely that if he runs into a wall by his force alone he will be knocked out. even if wonder man added momentum of his own, it should take big amount of strength to add to that in order to knock him out

Please, re read the scan.

Beast's words:
'Good thing for me I'm so athletic....Wonder Man's momentum almost carried him through the wall!'

Zero mention of Beast adding strength. The only reference to momentum, is Wonder Man's own.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Please, re read the scan.

Beast's words:
'Good thing for me I'm so athletic....Wonder Man's momentum almost carried him through the wall!'

Zero mention of Beast adding strength. The only reference to momentum, is Wonder Man's own.

again, there is no argument beast used his athletism to perform that feat. he mentioned good thing he was athletic enough to perform what he did. dont see how it contradicts anything. his tactic of dropping on his back and drive wonder man into a wall was chosen to be refered more as athletic feat. however, it doesnt change the fact the scan literally shows us beast drove wonder man with his legs into that wall. i also dont argue that there wasnt any momentum. wonder man was going at him. so beast used that momentum while adding his own strength to that. you can clearly see that in the scan. very simple.

i will repeat another point again. wonder man has insane durability. during that time specially he traded blows with thor easily. his durability is on a herald level. do you believe him just running into a wall is enough to knock him out? there had to me massive strength added to that in order to knock him out. this is wonder man not a random street thug. the purpose of this statement is not to suggest beast used his own strength to add to the momentum, its shown in the scan and is a fact. my statement is meant to prove beast added serious power to the knock out

You're reaching.

Originally posted by Dareangel
alright so his upgrade was Permanent? because someone here claimed it was for brief period of time and was gone. can people just admit the real facts without the need to hide something so they can win an internet argument? i mean just present the facts as they are.

Marvel eventually remembered Betsy has tk though. Beast hasn't been so lucky lol.

Originally posted by StyleTime
It was permanent, but it's like Psylocke's vanishing telekinesis. Writers just stopped using it, so we're forced to assume it's no longer a power.

Marvel eventually remembered Betsy has tk though. Beast hasn't been so lucky lol.

i see. thanks