Valkorion vs. UnuThul (TP battle)

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Still UnuThul.

Still Valk

Valkorion, yeah.

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Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Valkorion, yeah.

Valkorion

Valkorion, he was simultaneously controlling the First Son, the Children of the Emperor, the Imperial Guard and was controlling Dark Councils and even the strongest Jedi strike teams. All of this was done whilst chaining Vaylin's powers and controlling Zakuul to varying degrees.

Revan and the Outlander were the only ones truly capable of defying his mind controlling, but only with exceptional circumstances involved.

UnuThul supposedly nearly broke Luke, yet can't control Jacen Solo.

Valkorion's TP will prove too creepy and intense for Thul to handle, yeah.

OMG, Thul can't break Jacen, he sucks.
Vitiate and the Dreadmasters can't break Revan over 300 years or the Outlander, good feat for them.

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Originally posted by Ursumeles
OMG, Thul can't break Jacen, he sucks.
Vitiate and the Dreadmasters can't break Revan over 300 years or the Outlander, good feat for them.

Revan, one of the most powerful Force users ever, who has already experienced such domination, knows how to defend against it and is aided by a limitless source of energy to sustain his efforts.

Then the Outlander who is even more powerful, who was actually dominated by Valkorion and almost obliterated inside his own mind. Only saved by the Uber Holocron and the combined efforts of Lord Dramath, Arcann and Vaylin.

Outlander > Revan > Jacen, regardless.

UnuThul.

I'm not sure, but the arguments being made to low-ball Valkorion's TP are not good.

Also, I thought a lot of Jedi heard 'Thul's call and chose not to follow it...? Not just Jacen.

They were just calls/afterthoughts of his power, IIRC. Which still converted beings like Zekk, Jaina, Alema, etc.

When Thul set his sights on one person(in this case Luke) he was slowly but surely breaking his mind. In fact, Luke needed to escape his prison cell in Joiner King as fast as possible because he worried about his mental stability.

Then I guess it also depends on how strongly people relate actual combative prowess and Force power with being able to resist TP.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Revan, one of the most powerful Force users ever, who has already experienced such domination, knows how to defend against it and is aided by a limitless source of energy to sustain his efforts.

Then the Outlander who is even more powerful, who was actually dominated by Valkorion and almost obliterated inside his own mind. Only saved by the Uber Holocron and the combined efforts of Lord Dramath, Arcann and Vaylin.

Outlander > Revan > Jacen, regardless.


Jacen, one of the most powerful Force Users ever, with enorm willpower, who shruged off the torture of the Vong for a long time, as well as being severed by the Force, and archived Oneness in the Force, before going on a five-year long journey, where he learned esotheric sh!t like Flow-walking.
Also, IIRC, Jacen barely resisted 'Thul, while Vitiate failed to dominate him over the course of 300 years, with the help of the Dread Masters, on a Darkside Nexus.

What has being more powerful to do with it exactly? Also, the 'lander > Revan quote are likely raw power wise, just like Anakin > Yoda.
Regardless, the quote I know can be countered rather easily.

Luke >>>>>>>> Outlander/Revan tho.

Regardless, what are Valk's best TP showings? TPing a ko'ed strike team? TPing pre-prime Revan and Malak on a Darkside Nexus?

It just says OutLander is Vitiate's greatest adversary or something like that; he is, but not because he's the most OP.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Valkorion, yeah.

Originally posted by MythLord
It just says OutLander is Vitiate's greatest adversary or something like that; he is, but not because he's the most OP.

It could be combatively.
Outlander was pre prime as hot and considering how quickly he went from being ragdoll fodder to arcann to being his superior, the outlander's growth from hot could be massive