Originally posted by Nephthys
I find it hard to believe he had less power than a Smuglander in carbonite, or with how weak they were upon leaving it. Or after getting stabbed by Arcann or at any other point in the series. We see that he still wields immense power if you unleash him against Arcann, far more than the Outlander does.I mean sure but he can just forge the Outlander after taking over the body. Valkorion himself was a body he just stole and hollowed out. He only needed to wait until getting Vaylin because he couldn't do it himself.
The power isn't the important thing imo, its simply that the Outlanders mind is too strong for him to dominate without an edge.
If the outlander's mind is too strong for valk to dominate, then trying to argue valk can win this based on his ability to break the outlander's mine doesn't make any sense
Originally posted by AncientPower
Valkorion was a spirit, that's why. 😂Valkorion possessed her, but hadn't hollowed her out as he has to do for his Voices.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Valkorion was a spirit, that's why. 😂Valkorion possessed her, but hadn't hollowed her out as he has to do for his Voices.
So? He was a spirit when he destroyed Ziost and shat on Arcann. When he dominated the Outlander in KotFE and in the finale.
That's what he was trying to do in the finale, but the Outlander was able to survive his attempt to obliterate her psyche.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I find it hard to believe he had less power than a Smuglander in carbonite, or with how weak they were upon leaving it. Or after getting stabbed by Arcann or at any other point in the series. We see that he still wields immense power if you unleash him against Arcann, far more than the Outlander does.I mean sure but he can just forge the Outlander after taking over the body. Valkorion himself was a body he just stole and hollowed out. He only needed to wait until getting Vaylin because he couldn't do it himself.
The power isn't the important thing imo, its simply that the Outlanders mind is too strong for him to dominate without an edge. This doesn't diminish Valkorion at all, it just means the Outlander has Revan tier willpower.
He weilds his immense power (I mean kinda, but not really, given he easily one-shotted Arcann prior to his death) via the Outlander's Force reserves, exerting hrr to the point she is almost crippled by the overwhelming prowess.
No he can't, because the Outlander's body wouldn't have lasted. Valkorion was supposedly a great champion of Zakuul so that is speculation. He needed Vaylin because he lost his powers upon death, are we forgetting how badly f*cked he was after he died on Kaas?
I can't see it, given he can dominate the spirits of Arcann and Vaylin so casually, even resurrecting them after spiritual death. Revan's willpower defended against SWTOR Vitiate at best, Valkorion is >> SWTOR Vitiate.
I don't buy that idea. As I recall, the Outlander couldn't handle the strain of Valkorion's power, not anything to do with her own being drawn upon. Each time you use it it says "Accept Valkorion's power" and since Valkorion can use his power independantly of the Outlander and in fact on them, I don't believe their reserves were being used.
His power resided in the Outlander regardless, and it didn't seem to be an issue for him to just empower the Outlander's body to be capable of handling it when he wanted. And Kaas was a unique situation since he was already immensely weakened.
Revan resisted him and the Dread Masters for 300 years. The Outlander is simply comparable to Revan in willpower. He dominated his children but the Outlander > them, especially in willpower.