Originally posted by AncientPower
Revan, one of the most powerful Force users ever, who has already experienced such domination, knows how to defend against it and is aided by a limitless source of energy to sustain his efforts.Then the Outlander who is even more powerful, who was actually dominated by Valkorion and almost obliterated inside his own mind. Only saved by the Uber Holocron and the combined efforts of Lord Dramath, Arcann and Vaylin.
Outlander > Revan > Jacen, regardless.
What the f-ck are you on about?
Valkorion has lived for millennia, using his dark mastery of the Force to assume many forms. His latest incarnation is Valkorion, the Immortal Emperor of the Eternal Empire. After ruling for centuries, he was struck down in an act of treachery engineered by his son, Arcann. But the Immortal Emperor could not be vanquished so easily. He evaded death by infiltrating the mind of the Outlander, his most powerful opponent. He now appears to the Outlander as an apparition, offering guidance and harsh lessons while carrying out a master plan that remains shrouded in secrecy.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic: Knights of the Eternal Throne - "Valkorion"
Basically, Vaylin leaves Nathema unchained and heads back to her fleet, she ragdolls 6 uber Zakuul Knights (they have red armor for some reason) and three of her executioners to death. The remaining executioner asks what they should do about her former prison(the Asylum) so she uses the Force to completely overload the chamber in the Asylum which reduces the entire Asylum and the mountain beneath it to ash. She doesn't even seem to struggle doing it either.
Chained Vaylin also gets a pretty great feat too, with her powers out of her control in her chamber, she's unleashing ao much power it's ashing scientists and would have destroyed the entire Asylum. But through sheer force of will she breaks free.
Originally posted by MythLordi remember thul hitting luke with a tk attack mid conversation when the first meet and luke worrying for a moment that he would be overwhelmed due to being suprised. Then Thul tried something along those lines again a few pages later when luke was ready for it and had no affect on him.
They were just calls/afterthoughts of his power, IIRC. Which still converted beings like Zekk, Jaina, Alema, etc.When Thul set his sights on one person(in this case Luke) he was slowly but surely breaking his mind. In fact, Luke needed to escape his prison cell in Joiner King as fast as possible because he worried about his mental stability.
I dont remember the prison scene you're referring to in the Joiner King. U wouldnt happen to have a quote or a page number?
Originally posted by Ursumeles
Jacen, one of the most powerful Force Users ever, with enorm willpower, who shruged off the torture of the Vong for a long time, as well as being severed by the Force, and archived Oneness in the Force, before going on a five-year long journey, where he learned esotheric sh!t like Flow-walking.
Also, IIRC, Jacen barely resisted 'Thul, while Vitiate failed to dominate him over the course of 300 years, with the help of the Dread Masters, on a Darkside Nexus.What has being more powerful to do with it exactly? Also, the 'lander > Revan quote are likely raw power wise, just like Anakin > Yoda.
Regardless, the quote I know can be countered rather easily.Luke >>>>>>>> Outlander/Revan tho.
Regardless, what are Valk's best TP showings? TPing a ko'ed strike team? TPing pre-prime Revan and Malak on a Darkside Nexus?
UnuThul issued a (telepathic) call across the galaxy that a large number of Jedi felt and found enticing. However, many were able to resist his call.
Jacen Solo was not able to resist the call initially but he managed to develop a countermeasure against it at a later stage. UnuThul eventually realized at some point that Jacen had become immune to his telepathic abilities.
Resistance to Telepathic powers is a learning experience and a matter of willpower. Raw power is not much of a factor in this case.
UnuThul wasn't the only Telepath who could break Luke Skywalker, Lord Nyax could as well. This implies that Luke has an element of doubt in his mind or some kind of innate fear that can be his weakness.
It is really stupid to underestimate Valkorion in this area. Telepathic powers aren't infallible but Valkorion's are as good as they can get.