Darth Nihilus vs DE Palpatine [TK only]

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Darth Nihilus vs DE Palpatine [TK only]

Nihilus is fully fed, and at his peak. DE Palpatine is in a new clone body, and at his peak.

Who win?

Palpatine.

Palpatine.

Sidious molests

Palpatine curbs. By ANH alone, he could, with a thought, crack the foundations of buildings large enough to house ships that were much larger than the Ravager.

Not to mention all the quotes putting him over Nihilus by RotS alone.

Nihilus.

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Sidious is canonically more powerful, and obviously not a telekinetic amateur. Connect the dots.

I don't find that feat you mentioned compelling, character thoughts aren't always reliable evidence for feats they can do. Maul thought he could solo the Jedi temple for example. And I recall Plagueis thinking he and Sidious could solo the Council. Sidious thought he shook the stars, lol. Etc. But that feat wouldn't be impressive regardless, Sidious just cracking some foundations with TK is hardly the stuff of legends. Nihilus lifting a ship would require far more power, as would the other stuff to do with his fleet. That kind of power could easily equal cracking some foundations.

I also don't acknowledge him as more powerful. So you're 0 for 2.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't find that feat you mentioned compelling, character thoughts aren't always reliable evidence for feats they can do. Maul thought he could solo the Jedi temple for example. And I recall Plagueis thinking he and Sidious could solo the Council. Sidious thought he shook the stars, lol. Etc. But that feat wouldn't be impressive regardless, Sidious just cracking some foundations with TK is hardly the stuff of legends. Nihilus lifting a ship would require far more power, as would the other stuff to do with his fleet. That kind of power could easily equal cracking some foundations.

I also don't acknowledge him as more powerful. So you're 0 for 2.

I'm 0 for 2 because you aren't willing to accept evidence? lmfao

I think Sidious restraining himself from actually tearing apart the building suffices as evidence that he could do it. As for Nihilus lifting the ship being better, perhaps, but not when Sidious is doing it with a thought.

I don't care what you acknowledge. Numerous quotes put Palpatine above Nihilus, and many were published after KotOR II, so you don't have your "outdated" excuse. So it's a (well-cemented) fact.

Sidious.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Palpatine.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Palpatine curbs. By ANH alone, he could, with a thought, crack the foundations of buildings large enough to house ships that were much larger than the Ravager.

Not to mention all the quotes putting him over Nihilus by RotS alone.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Palpatine curbs. By ANH alone, he could, with a thought, crack the foundations of buildings large enough to house ships that were much larger than the Ravager.

Not to mention all the quotes putting him over Nihilus by RotS alone.


And Lord Nyax thought that he could rip Coruscant apart, after experiencing a surge of energy.

That is not a convincing argument, my friend.

Sounds like he was in a state of euphoria, quite different.

Originally posted by SunRazer
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Sidious is canonically more powerful, and obviously not a telekinetic amateur. Connect the dots.

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Sidious thoughts aren't facts, lmao.

Originally posted by SunRazer
[B]Palpatine curbs. By ANH alone, he could, with a thought, crack the foundations of buildings large enough to house ships that were much larger than the Ravager

While I agree with your position this argument I say pretty shit.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Sidious thoughts aren't facts, lmao.
Yet a thought is all he'll need to take Nihilus to the curb. 🙂

Neither.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Sidious thoughts aren't facts, lmao.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And Lord Nyax thought that he could rip Coruscant apart, after experiencing a surge of energy.

That is not a convincing argument, my friend.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
While I agree with your position this argument I say pretty shit.

I think it's meritable when Sidious is pretty much doing all he can to stop himself from actually tearing the Palace apart.

That aside, given his recently discovered Lusankya feat, he's way out of Nihilus' league anyway.

Originally posted by SunRazer
I think Sidious restraining himself from actually tearing apart the building suffices as evidence that he could do it. As for Nihilus lifting the ship being better, perhaps, but not when Sidious is doing it with a thought.

Harming/destroying an object > lifting an object of similar size almost every time tbh barring the object being moved at some hilariously high speed for kinetic energy (which, for Nihilus' feat, is impossible to determine)

On the large, exaggerated, end of the scale?

Destroying Earth takes some 50 zettatons. Lifting a mass the size of earth's 1 meter takes 10-20 petatons IIRC

I could demonstrate the same with destroying a building vs moving it, but I feel this illustrates it as clearly *shrugs*