Captain Marvel (Billy) vs. Silver Surfer

Started by Sin I AM14 pages

Fanfic forum surfer

Cap doesn't need equipment to breathe in space in later years...see OWAW, for example.

But then, they also had Flash running in space, so...

Originally posted by abhilegend
He doesn't gets curbed.

😬
Because you were so articulate as usual.

Pot, meet Kettle

Originally posted by tkitna
Here's how the Surfer should beat Billy because it would be hysterical.

http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/silver-surfer-atomizes-clothing-constriction.jpg

The easiest way that would take no time at all though would be to change the atmosphere or air around him into something he couldn't breathe like poisonous gas or something.

Not the exact scan I wanted, but everybody should get the idea of what he's capable of.

http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/silver-surfer-creates-breathable-atmosphere.png

And since,,,,,

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oVziK9ooh5M/VyLISq4WPNI/AAAAAAAABD8/t7cdv-h_6L0YA5VjAKbome_wBlusKkogwCCo/s0/RCO017.jpg


Cap doesn't needs to breathe. The mask was purely due to the fact that Billy thought he needed air.

At this point, you're just boring me and throwing up random shit.

Ok, I tire of this. We have one of the most powerful, versatile characters ever written versus a 2nd tier Superman type character that cant do anything but punch and throw some lightning around. If you can think it up, the Surfer can pretty much do it. Since i'm no longer interested in looking stuff up and being told it wouldnt work because ke's magic, lets let the people decide.

Here's two pages of Surfer feats. If you want to continue, show us something from Billy that would convince us he could beat a character like that. If you dont, thats great too.

http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/2015/01/02/aipt-tribute-the-silver-surfer-part-1/
http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/2015/01/06/aipt-tribute-the-silver-surfer-part-2/

👆 Cap wins😈

I accept your Concession.

Toss up if Surfer uses his versatility. Billy wins if Surfer goes as usual with punches and blasts.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Fanfic forum surfer

If we call this I'll definitely be there saying this whenever the IMP per millisecond spamming flash pops up in threads.

Except Flash has IMPd before.

Surfer has never made Knite, or even red sun rads specifically.

He has threatened Glads with radiation, true, but at least Flash has done it.

They're not saying Surfer uses knite though.

They're saying that the Surfer would **** with oxygen.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Except Flash has IMPd before.

Surfer has never made Knite, or even red sun rads specifically.

He has threatened Glads with radiation, true, but at least Flash has done it.


Yeah but logic and common sense have to be factored in when you're talking about an open ended powerset. We don't doubt that Thanos w/IG could create a car just because he never did it after all. Or that Hal Jorden could create a construct to look like the Starship Enterprise just because he's never done it. We know Surfer can create/manipulate radiation and solar energy so saying that he could utilize either isn't really a stretch. It makes no more sense to penalize character's who's powerset is to do virtually anything within a certain scope strictly to the specific things they've used it for on panel than it does to say that someone who's lifted a corvet on panel with ease can't lift a firebird because he's never preformed that specific feat.

It's not as open ended as you think, however.

I will talk about the oxygen messing, because kris has brought it up and reminded me what the tactic is.

Whilst it CAN be used in such a manner, Surfer has NEVER thought to do so in such a manner.

To then suddenly think about it and use it against an opponent he has no idea about, and nearly kill him through suffocation.....

He has created oxygen for people to breathe in though.

I don't think that's a particularly viable tactic for this fight however, and it's a bit of a moot point since Billy is like the one DC character who doesn't have a retarded weakness.

Originally posted by krisblaze
He has created oxygen for people to breathe in though.

I don't think that's a particularly viable tactic for this fight however, and it's a bit of a moot point since Billy is like the one DC character who doesn't have a retarded weakness.

He has indeed.

But suffocating them? When he has never done so? I mean, this does not sound like the pacifist Surfer - and doesn't even sound like an angry Surfer, considering he has never once thought about it. We still argue in character, after all,

And yeah, moot point.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's not as open ended as you think, however.

I will talk about the oxygen messing, because kris has brought it up and reminded me what the tactic is.

Whilst it CAN be used in such a manner, Surfer has NEVER thought to do so in such a manner.

To then suddenly think about it and use it against an opponent he has no idea about, and nearly kill him through suffocation.....


Oh I'm not saying that he'll deprive CM of oxygen(though it's certainly a possibility), I was just addressing those specifics because they get thrown around a lot.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh I'm not saying that he'll deprive CM of oxygen(though it's certainly a possibility), I was just addressing those specifics because they get thrown around a lot.

With regards to THOSE specifics....

When has Surfer scanned someone and actually followed through on his threat? Hence the term 'fanfic Surfer'. He doesn't have that mindset to scan an opponent, find their weakness, and ACTUALLY follow through on it.

CAN he do it? Like you said, he has done so before. WILL he do it? Fanfic Surfer would.

Would Thanos create a car mid battle with the IG? No. Could he? Sure. But if he was fighting a character who, unbeknownst to him was only weak to cars (and nothing else), he isn't suddenly throwing out cars. And he's a villain.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He has indeed.

But suffocating them? When he has never done so? I mean, this does not sound like the pacifist Surfer - and doesn't even sound like an angry Surfer, considering he has never once thought about it. We still argue in character, after all,

And yeah, moot point.

Pacifist?

He's been in over a hundred fights.

He won't seek out violence, but it doesn't really take that much to get him riled up tbh.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Pacifist?

He's been in over a hundred fights.

He won't seek out violence, but it doesn't really take that much to get him riled up tbh.

To the point he takes the oxygen out from someone? How does he usually fight in those hundred fights? Should be a nice round number to get a percentage, actually. 50% of the time? 1%? 2? The majority of the time, he punches or blasts energy.

Majority.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
To the point he takes the oxygen out from someone? How does he usually fight in those hundred fights? Should be a nice round number to get a percentage, actually. 50% of the time? 1%? 2? The majority of the time, he punches or blasts energy.

Majority.

I don't understand why you're singling out the removal of oxygen as something particularly violent.

It's far less violent than slugging it out.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
With regards to THOSE specifics....

When has Surfer scanned someone and actually followed through on his threat? Hence the term 'fanfic Surfer'. He doesn't have that mindset to scan an opponent, find their weakness, and ACTUALLY follow through on it.

CAN he do it? Like you said, he has done so before. WILL he do it? Fanfic Surfer would.

Would Thanos create a car mid battle with the IG? No. Could he? Sure. But if he was fighting a character who, unbeknownst to him was only weak to cars (and nothing else), he isn't suddenly throwing out cars. And he's a villain.


Yeah but at the same time... when has Flash ever used more than 1 IMP in a fight? I mean I know that he once stated that he could hit someone a million times and then followed up with an IMP, but has he ever actually used multiple IMP's in a fight? Does that mean that characters facing the Flash on the forum only have to worry about a single IMP no matter how long the fight drags on? His threat against Gladiator is more than enough to demonstrate that using a specific frequency of radiation is more than enough that it's within his character to do so even though he wasn't forced to actually follow through with the threat. Especially since he's actually manipulated specific frequencies of radiation multiple times against guys like the Hulk.