Maul (Rebels) vs. Ventress (Legends)

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Granted but then I don't have access to a universal power source that can often directs your movements for you and gives you a greater connection to the universe around you.

You guys know that TCW really messes with Maul's past life right? Cause bringing it up and then going on with TCW, I'm not seeing adding up...since Canon.

Cause tbh, looking at Maul before TCW, the stuff that then happens to him with TCW I don't see fitting with what his past showed.

Originally posted by ILS
and this doesn't apply to Ventress with one lightsaber... how?

It does? I'm just saying that the adjustment for a Force user is obviously going to be easier for a non force user.

More complaining about mixing TCW with Legends I see....

smh.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Yeah that wouldn't happen to TPM Maul.

The matter of Ventress being reliant on Jar'Kai having been debunked by Dark Disciple, when opts for and indeed excels at wielding a single blade. So in the absence of a real reason for Ventress winning I remain unconvinced. 🙂

Prove it.

Prove she was as good wielding a single blade as she was with Jar Kai.

/Shrug

I'm just saying.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Prove it.

Prove she was as good wielding a single blade as she was with Jar Kai.

Prove she's worse.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Prove it.

Prove she was as good wielding a single blade as she was with Jar Kai.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
It does? I'm just saying that the adjustment for a Force user is obviously going to be easier for a non force user.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
You're trying to tell me that Ventress is going to have a harder time adjusting to a difference in armament where she still has a weapon she's intimately familiar with and has fighting single bladed... and telling me that's somehow harder to deal with than Maul having half of his body suddenly changed on him...

That just doesn't make sense to me. If you're telling me the Force would help Maul magically adjust to that perfectly, then Ventress shouldn't have any problem at all single wielding. Seeing as a difference in armament has had a considerable impact on trained Force users before, I'm inclined to say a difference in half of Maul's body is much less trivial than you're making it out to be.

No but I'm saying you're overexaggerating the difficulty Maul would have adjusting.

I'm saying that skill is what plays a large part in using a different weapon while the Force helps to compensate with beings that have issues with the biological functions of their body that would normally be debilitating to non Force users. I'm not saying Maul's hindrances were smaller though.

Originally posted by ILS
She opted to use just one when she could use two.

Prove she's worse.

She had the option of using two?

I don't have to because the logical basis is that more experience using a certain weapon combination means your going to be skilled using it then another.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
No but I'm saying you're overexaggerating the difficulty Maul would have adjusting.

I'm saying that skill is what plays a large part in using a different weapon while the Force helps to compensate with beings that have issues with the biological functions of their body that would normally be debilitating to non Force users. I'm not saying Maul's hindrances were smaller though.

"I REALLY WANT VENTRESS TO WIN"

Originally posted by Emperordmb
So you want Beni to prove that... yet you're perfectly fine assuming Maul's just as fine with a completely different lower half because "he can feel his legs and he has teh force"?

Stop strawmanning. I never claimed he would be perfectly fine.

Originally posted by ILS
Ergo Ventress was no worse off than Maul on the turtle tanker.

I'm referring to biological functions here.

And I'm saying a person's fighting style is based around their physical body, but I'm done with this conversation.

No offense, but I'm not wasting any more time trying to get across that having a difference in armament is much easier to deal with than having a difference in half of your body, because I think that should be common sense.

Originally posted by ILS
In other words;

"I REALLY WANT VENTRESS TO WIN"

No I'm simply noting the disadvantages she had at the time and not discounting Maul's.

I'm then comparing their performances against the same opponent under similar circumstances.

And finally I'm taking into account logical degradation.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I'm done with this conversation.

Goodbye.

Originally posted by ILS
being called her superior by sw.com

This never occurred.

Your argument is becoming increasingly flimsy here Syn and I'm still not seeing a lucid case for Ventress.

Seems like ILS is on the money. 👆

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Prove it.

Prove she was as good wielding a single blade as she was with Jar Kai.

And I'm assuming a concession regarding the gifs.

Vos would pretty easily stomp Maul