Since my views have been completely twisted, I'll explain it again:
Fact: Anakin Skywalker was born prior to the meditation event.
Speculation: The meditation event shifted the Force's balance, and not instead Anakin's growing power.
Speculation*: The meditation event was the reason for Anakin Skywalker's birth, and not the many other significant shifts that would come before or after.
* This is speculation because, since the event occurred after Anakin's birth, it demands conclusive evidence.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
He doesn't state the meditation did it, just that they "might" have done it.
That uncertainty extended to Anakin being part of the unbalance, but you mysteriously were fine with saying that definitively. mmm
Whatever the case:
You're horribly naive about the most basic of academic ideas. For example, the scientific method. Literally the entire philosophy of science is based on the idea that we have a bunch of data, and then generate theories to explain that data and make predictions about future data. Those theories will by definition require assumptions; the question then becomes figuring out how to come up with the most plausible ones that best fit the facts (.i.e. occam's razer).
All you've ever managed to do in this discussion is to say that there's a <100% chance that Plagueis and Sidious caused the Force to create Anakin. There's also a <100% chance that the world won't explode tomorrow, but you don't seem too worried about that because you implicitly trust the scientific models we have that make much, much bigger assumptions than the ones we're making right now.
So the real question is whether our model has the best assumptions, and given that we don't need to posit the absurd coincidences that you do, I'd say so.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Since my views have been completely twisted, I'll explain it again:Fact: Anakin Skywalker was born prior to the meditation event.
Speculation: The meditation event shifted the Force's balance, and not instead Anakin's growing power.
Speculation: The meditation event was the reason for Anakin Skywalker's birth, and not the many other significant shifts that would come before or after.
Fact: The Prophecy was made millennia before Anakin's time.
Fact: Anakin was destined to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force.
Fact: Anakin destroys Palpatine, bringing balance to the Force.
Speculation: Palpatine caused the imbalance in the Force. You know, it might've been Anakin's growing power or something else.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Since my views have been completely twisted, I'll explain it again:Fact: Anakin Skywalker was born prior to the meditation event.
Speculation: The meditation event shifted the Force's balance, and not instead Anakin's growing power.
Speculation*: The meditation event was the reason for Anakin Skywalker's birth, and not the many other significant shifts that would come before or after.
* This is speculation because, since the event occurred after Anakin's birth, it demands conclusive evidence.
What other "significant shifts"? I'm hoping these events can be proven to have caused the force to be unbalanced and it's not merely speculation on your part.
Originally posted by ares834
What other "significant shifts"? I'm hoping these events can be proven to have caused the force to be unbalanced and it's not merely speculation on your part.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Fact: The Prophecy was made millennia before Anakin's time.Fact: Anakin was destined to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force.
Fact: Anakin destroys Palpatine, bringing balance to the Force.
Speculation: Palpatine caused the imbalance in the Force. You know, it might've been Anakin's growing power or something else.
Agreed. 👆
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Guys, I've been thinking... Maybe we should start considering Revan's defeat of Malak speculation. I mean, if you think about it, we never really see him deal the final blow; maybe Chuck Norris appeared and did it for him, and left before the final cutscene. Not saying that happened, but like, we don't know for suuure... That explanation is as good as any, right? ¯\_( ツ )_/¯
Heck, how do we even know that DarthAnt66 is a real person? I mean, I see text appear with his name next to it, but saying that someone must have typed that is just speculation. mmm