Originally posted by Sin I AM
Hmmm...u think door > spot?
Oh Lordy, no - the Spot has shown more versatility. Where they ARE equal/similar, however, is that they are both extradimensional - so they don't set the SS off.
Originally posted by cdtm
And how does that work, exactly?So he'd still need to see?
Not shown. He hasn't needed line of sight to do them either.
Originally posted by carver9
It seems like points tend to go over your head.Also, even though the hypno implants were there, he was still fighting back. You're making excuses at this point. He could've opened a door.
Again, you're making excuses. If the door is an effective tool, and it is, he would've used it in battle.
Lol...the forum rules states they fight in character. In CHARACTER, MN doesn't use doors. He has far more appearances of fighting it out vs opening up doors. This goes to the point of my previous question...ON AVERAGE, MN does not use doors. You can post all the things you want about Spiderman but on AVERAGE, he uses his spider sense, super speed, super strength, webbing and intellect. Post those scans though.
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Oh carver, lol.
Missing the point? 😛
Do you know what the battle computer does?
This is, unfortunately, an issue in this thread. The Spidey supporters know all about Spidey, and a bit about Midnighter. But the Midnighter supporters know all about Mids, and a fair bit about Spidey.
But I will humour you, carver, and once again own you as per usual. Actually, that is mean. I will educate you, as per usual.
The BC tells him how to win. Agreed? It tells him the winning tactics.
If his fists are good enough to win, then no doors will be used. However, you and others have been telling Zack and I all this stuff about Spiderman - he beats up Firelord, Rhino, Hulk, Doom, FF, etc, and has taken hits from Hulk, Juggy, Venom etc etc, and his webbing has restrained Hulk, etc.
So you're telling me he has ZERO chance in a physical fight. Agreed?
So with zero chance - he uses doors. Why HASN'T he used doors in his other fights? Because he hasn't needed to. Simple as that. He didn't need them when he was kicking Parasite's teeth out. He didn't need them against Etrigan, or the Red Lanterns, or Martian Manhunter, or Grayson - because his BC told him fists were enough. Of course, with Grayson, the Hypnos implants then messed with the BC. Which Spidey does not have here.
What about Afterthought, the guy who curbed him? Why didn't he use doors then?
Firstly, he did. Harley had booby trapped them with Amanda Waller - literally just before he was beaten up, he tanked an explosion point blank whilst saving his boyfriend, Robert (a very good durability feat, btw - thanks for reminding me!)
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Secondly - no basic knowledge of his opponent. Unlike here. He had no idea what Afterthought could do.
Again, I must reiterate this point. You have no real idea of what Midnighter the character is. His BC tells him what to do to win. IF, as you assert, he has ZERO chance in a physical match up (after all, Spidey is totes amazeballs, and can totally on average hang with heralds!!!) then it will be used.
If he has a chance to win, then he uses fists. IN CHARACTER. On average, he hasn't needed to, because his physicals are way up there (as I have shown in scans) against his opponents. You're just ignoring his BC, which is kinda like ignoring Reed with prep, lol.
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