AOTC Anakin and Obi Wan vs TPM Qui Gon and Obi Wan

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AOTC vs TPM

AOTC Anakin and Obi Wan vs TPM Qui Gon and Obi Wan

Who is the better team?

Anybody who isn't brain-damaged would give AotC Obi-Wan the edge over Qui-Gon.

Anakin's also above TPM Obi-Wan. In at least some sources, Anakin is depicted as contending with Dooku, whereas Obi-Wan's never shown to be able to contend with Maul (who's an inferior swordsman to the Count) without the benefit of rage.

Yeah, atoc tam are considerably better.

Any member of the AotC team is better than any member of the TPM team.

Well the question isn't which combatants are more skilled and more powerful, but which is a better team, in which case I'd go for TPM team.

Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan clearly had great synergy, whereas AOTC Obi-Wan was usually shouting at Anakin and chasing him around. And though even as a team TPM duo would get stomped by Count Dooku, but at least they'd fight him together.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well the question isn't which combatants are more skilled and more powerful, but which is a better team, in which case I'd go for TPM team.

Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan clearly had great synergy, whereas AOTC Obi-Wan was usually shouting at Anakin and chasing him around. And though even as a team TPM duo would get stomped by Count Dooku, but at least they'd fight him together.

2 combatants fight two combatants, one occupies one, the effectiveness of teamwork is limited here.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Anybody who isn't brain-damaged would give AotC Obi-Wan the edge over Qui-Gon.
As someone who clearly suffers from immense brain damage, I disagree.

Why is AotC necessarily better than Jinn? Based on what hard evidence?

^ Yeah I was thinking the same but didn't want to be called brain damaged 🙁

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
2 combatants fight two combatants, one occupies one, the effectiveness of teamwork is limited here.

I'm probably misrepresenting the OP's intentions, but he doesn't put the 2 teams against each other in a 2 v 2 match up. He just says "which is the better team". And as of AOTC, Obi-Wan and Anakin had many flaws as a team, mainly due to Anakin's arrogance and frustrations at not being a Knight.

Originally posted by ILS
As someone who clearly suffers from immense brain damage, I disagree.

Why is AotC necessarily better than Jinn? Based on what hard evidence?


LMAO; Qui-Gon lost against Maul. Clearly AotC Kenobi >>

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well the question isn't which combatants are more skilled and more powerful, but which is a better team, in which case I'd go for TPM team.

Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan clearly had great synergy, whereas AOTC Obi-Wan was usually shouting at Anakin and chasing him around. And though even as a team TPM duo would get stomped by Count Dooku, but at least they'd fight him together.


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I side with TPM. There is nothing to suggest that AotC Kenobi is superior to Qui-Gon; let's see, Qui-Gon lasted how long against Maul and Kenobi lasted how long against the troll Dooku?

Anakin is superior to TPM Kenobi in terms of overall fighting ability, but he clearly extremely reckless, arrogant, and lacks control. Not saying that Kenobi could beat Anakin every day of the week, but it's definitely not one sided.

And then there is sync energy and we all know who gets that.

^ Good points and TPM Obi-Wan did already beat a superior combatant down to that combatant's arrogance, cockiness and recklessness.

Qui-Gon lasted something around 30 seconds against Maul who was injured and only using one half of his lightsaber.

AOTC team, every time.

Why are we assuming that AOTC Anakin is always arrogant and reckless in combat? What from one showing against Dooku, after the fact he just witnessed his fellow Jedi get killed and Dooku being the cause of it?

Yeah in that instance sure Anakin was, but now were gonna apply it to every combat scenario where this didn't happen?

Not to mention even applying this, Anakin was still able to fight Dooku....soo...why is this a negative?

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Not to mention even applying this, Anakin was still able to fight Dooku....soo...why is this a negative?

Only because Kenobi bought him enough time to recover his fried ass.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Only because Kenobi bought him enough time to recover his fried ass.

Yeah and guess what? Neither of the 2nd team uses Force Lighting.

But anyway, TPM did show to be the better team mostly because they weren't separated for more than half the movie, give or take.

That has nothing to do with what I said 😬

Besides this isn't a regular vs thread 😬

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Originally posted by cs_zoltan
That has nothing to do with what I said 😬

Besides this isn't a regular vs thread 😬

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I know, just pointing that out though as people like to use it against AoTC Anakin when his opponents don't use Force Lighting.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Why are we assuming that AOTC Anakin is always arrogant and reckless in combat? What from one showing against Dooku, after the fact he just witnessed his fellow Jedi get killed and Dooku being the cause of it?

LOL, it's hardly unique to that situation tbh. If you read Jedi Quest, you'll see that he does shit like that all the ****ing time lol

Originally posted by Emperordmb
LOL, it's hardly unique to that situation tbh. If you read Jedi Quest, you'll see that he does shit like that all the ****ing time lol

Mmmk...but basing off the movies? It's hardly fair to say Anakin is always like this in combat, when the instance was surrounded by circumstance.