AOTC Anakin and Obi Wan vs TPM Qui Gon and Obi Wan

Started by Darth Thor4 pages

Originally posted by Kurk

In "R2 Come Home" Skywalker nearly killed himself and Mace by triggering a bomb instead of first thinking about why a Mandalorian helmet would be sitting at a crash site.

Nah that's just a mistake. Mace only told him to stop when he recognized it was Jango's helmet. Otherwise Mace was stood right there. He never said "Stop! Don't be so reckless!"

In "Children of the Force" Mace steps right into Cad Bane's trap letting him escape. Kenobi even says to him "well you sure stepped into it this time." Wasn't particularly smart of Mace, but was just a mistake. All Jedi make them from time to time, doesn't mean they're just generally "reckless."

Originally posted by Kurk

Anakin attacks Clovis without thinking about the repercussions and is only saved from possible eviction from the order because Clovis lied to save him.

Well obviously when it comes to Clovis he's going to act recklessly. Because that's touching his biggest weakness "Padme" which was also what turned him to the Dark Side.

Doesn't mean he's going to be reckless all the time.

He's proven himself in Battle more than any other Jedi during TCW tbh.

More excuses from the fanboy, D. Thor.

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Originally posted by MythLord

This whole "Anakin is reckless" thing needs to end,

I think it's fair when referring to AOTC Anakin. At the beginning he was arguing with Obi-Wan about what their mission is, then when chasing the Bounty Hunter he goes off on his own not telling Obi-Wan what he was doing, then of course at the end against Dooku, teamwork just completely went out of the window.

But beyond that, once he was Knighted his supposed "recklessness" proved in battle to be more of an asset than a weakness as seen on multiple occasions when the Jedi tell him "stop being reckless" and he saves the day, which the Jedi wouldn't have done otherwise.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
So you'd keep your eye on the Magnaguards over Count Dooku?

lol don't be ridiculous. Anakin had no hope of winning there. He was simply outmatched. Nothing reckless about it.

If Dooku's walking away from me then I would take the opportunity to eliminate the droids so I can go back to focusing on Dooku instead of engaging everybody at once like an idiot.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nah that's just a mistake. Mace only told him to stop when he recognized it was Jango's helmet. Otherwise Mace was stood right there. He never said "Stop! Don't be so reckless!"

In "Children of the Force" Mace steps right into Cad Bane's trap letting him escape. Kenobi even says to him "well you sure stepped into it this time." Wasn't particularly smart of Mace, but was just a mistake. All Jedi make them from time to time, doesn't mean they're just generally "reckless."

Well obviously when it comes to Clovis he's going to act recklessly. Because that's touching his biggest weakness "Padme" which was also what turned him to the Dark Side.

Doesn't mean he's going to be reckless all the time.

He's proven himself in Battle more than any other Jedi during TCW tbh.


Regardless he didn't think before he acted. A mandalorian helmet sitting in an environment like that should be an indicator to hold up for a second and think. Mace did.

The Clovis scene really does highlight the immaturity within Anakin and how the galaxy was ultimately doomed due to a hot piece of ass and a testosterone-filled monkey.

Also you're ignoring the other examples I brought up, such as when Anakin pushed his attacks even when it was endangering his troops or himself.

Originally posted by Kurk
If Dooku's walking away from me then I would take the opportunity to eliminate the droids so I can go back to focusing on Dooku instead of engaging everybody at once like an idiot.

It wouldn't have made any difference. Dooku would have intervened if Anakin had focused on destroying all the droids first.

Skywalker was simply outmatched there. You're trying too hard to find reckless actions from him.

Originally posted by Kurk
Regardless he didn't think before he acted. A mandalorian helmet sitting in an environment like that should be an indicator to hold up for a second and think. Mace did.

No, Mace just walked into a more obvious trap from Cad Bane. He even tells Skywalker before he went "Of course it's a trap Skywalker" Lol.

Anakin was superior out on the battle field as he proved when it was him who figured how to stop the Zillo Beast, not Mace.

Originally posted by Kurk
The Clovis scene really does highlight the immaturity within Anakin and how the galaxy was ultimately doomed due to a hot piece of ass and a testosterone-filled monkey.

Well yeah it highlighted why he turned to the dark side. But it didn't highlight why he lost battles. Probably because he hardly ever did.

Originally posted by Kurk
Also you're ignoring the other examples I brought up, such as when Anakin pushed his attacks even when it was endangering his troops or himself.

That's War, if you think you have a way to win, you push the attack, and you risk your troops.

He was still the one who destroyed the Malevolence.

I've not ignored anything. Whereas you have ignored my countless examples of Anakin showcasing he was Tactically the best warrior out on the battle field, and the one winnning most the battles.

In fact the Clones loved fighting under him. So he obviously had a good reputation with them, and not a rep of the guy who gets all his troops killed Lol.