Do SJWs suffer from mental illnesses?

Started by Scribble135 pages

Originally posted by Surtur
So the Disney movie goes too far, but not coloring books and puppy pictures?

You have to admit it almost sounds like something you'd see in Kindergarden if you removed "healthy relationship bingo" from the table.

As far as I can tell, this is using the correct, medical use of the term 'triggered'. University can cause (and, yes, trigger) mental health issues such as severe loneliness and depression to flare up: http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/studenthealth/Pages/Mentalhealth.aspx

Relationships are hard to maintain at university, often ending quite soon after university starts (you can look this up if you like, there's plenty of stuff on it. I can confirm that I not only heard of a number of relationships dissolving within a few months of uni starting, but so did my own, and we'd been together for four years), so the first Valentine's Day after starting uni can be unbearably lonely. There are also people who start university single find it hard to adjust to university life, so, again, that first Valentine's Day could be the hardest day for them to handle. I think this university choosing this day for a mental health awareness day where they show their students that they care is pretty sweet, and is clearly apolitical and has nothing to do with the overplayed stories of university 'safe spaces' and such.

Anyway, onto methods:

Colouring books are known to be good relievers of stress, anxiety, etc.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/therapeutic-science-adult-coloring-books-how-childhood-pastime-helps-adults-356280

If you're going to laugh at colouring books, you may as well laugh at counselling and therapy, too. There's no need to be so judgmental of alternative techniques that help people cope with pain.

Also, a daily dose of looking at cute things like pictures of puppies can help personal growth and day-to-day focus and drive:

http://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/minds-business/the-power-of-puppies-looking-at-cute-images-can-improve-focus.html#.WLxT_RLyhE4

Laugh all you want, at least this university cares about its students and seems to be going about helping them in a fairly clever way.

Stress and depression at university:

More stressed students now seeking help: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-34354405

Rise in student suicide figures: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36378573

More statistics about suicide at university: http://www.collegedegreesearch.net/student-suicides/

Lmao, yeah, I'm gonna laugh at grown adults requiring color books, puppies, and disney films to deal with Valentines Day.

I ask again: if we treat them like children, what happens when they get to the real world?

Originally posted by Surtur
Thoughts on how, thanks to Sanctuary City practices, a guy was set free and murdered an innocent man?

YouTube video

Don't worry, it's like a 12 minute video but you can get the jist of it in the first minute and 30 seconds.

Just so this doesn't get lost.

How is it treating them like children? I just posted a bunch of links that show how colouring books and puppies help adults, and who doesn't enjoy watching a film to de-stress? You basically just ignored every fact and link in my post. Or do you just prefer your 'Triggered Tennis' matches with Rob, because that way you don't have to challenge your own beliefs?

Originally posted by Scribble
How is it treating them like children? I just posted a bunch of links that show how colouring books and puppies help adults, and who doesn't enjoy watching a film to de-stress? You basically just ignored every fact and link in my post. Or do you just prefer your 'Triggered Tennis' matches with Rob, because that way you don't have to challenge your own beliefs?

Lol dude, did I say the shit doesn't help? I said it's treating them like kids. Did you post a link that showed it wasn't?

Coloring books help adults, okay? Maybe if they didn't use coloring books to deal with every little triggerdom I'd take it more seriously. You are aware of that, correct? It's not just people sad over V-Day? People use it to hide from ideas?

They used coloring books and puppies at Brown because feminist Christina Hoff Summers was showing up. Do you have any links to explain that type of nonsense too?

When I see these people running to coloring books for every little thing? Yep, dumb as f*ck, sorry lol. This is one event in many sad and pathetic triggerings.

Almost like the boy who cried wolf, but with triggering, You get triggered over every little thing? Suddenly nobody gives a shit.

Just because the method is effective and is used in two different scenarios, one of which you disagree with, doesn't make the other scenario or the method itself invalid.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Just because the method is effective and is used in two different scenarios, one of which you disagree with, doesn't make the other scenario or the method itself invalid.

The problem is people start to begin to take others less and less seriously when they get triggered over every little thing like this, where they always need a special room to go to.

When they stop using it to hide from ideas I have no doubt people will be more sympathetic. Otherwise the two will get conflated, sucks, but it's reality.

Any thoughts on the Sanctuary City post?

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol dude, did I say the shit doesn't help? I said it's treating them like kids. Did you post a link that showed it wasn't?

Coloring books help adults, okay? Maybe if they didn't use coloring books to deal with every little triggerdom I'd take it more seriously. You are aware of that, correct? It's not just people sad over V-Day? People use it to hide from ideas?

They used coloring books and puppies at Brown because feminist Christina Hoff Summers was showing up. Do you have any links to explain that type of nonsense too?

When I see these people running to coloring books for every little thing? Yep, dumb as f*ck, sorry lol. This is one event in many sad and pathetic triggerings.

Almost like the boy who cried wolf, but with triggering, You get triggered over every little thing? Suddenly nobody gives a shit.

People do things for lots of things, and this case you have brought up is clearly an apolitical case of them approaching mental health at university, not part of your further narrative of 'hiding from opinions'/SJW-dom. Nothing in the link you posted had anything to do with Brown university, so why bring it up? It's unrelated. You're literally just laughing at people who deal with depression, anxiety and loneliness at this point.

By the way, kids also draw, run, play, and speak, and it turns out that those all have uses in later life: so why are colouring books an exception to this, if they have real-life uses and benefits? I have a friend who struggles with dissociative identity disorder (i.e., a split personality), and colouring books and other similar repetitive tasks were important steps in him going from pretty much being institutionalised to actually taking control of his own mind and returning to work and living with his family again. So laugh all you want; I say that if it works, great.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Just because the method is effective and is used in two different scenarios, one of which you disagree with, doesn't make the other scenario or the method itself invalid.
Exactly.

I explained why I brought up Brown, so if you aren't going to read the posts, there is no point lol. Good talk.

Originally posted by Surtur
I explained why I brought up Brown, so if you aren't going to read the posts, there is no point lol. Good talk.
Yeah, and it didn't link to the Happy Fun Peace Love and Love Day thing at all. The HFPL&LD thing was to help people with genuine mental health issues, and the Brown thing was to do with political stuff. Two very different scenarios.

But sure, take the opportunity to run away from an argument again. If you want to address my other points, I'm still here.

Originally posted by Scribble
By the way, kids also draw, run, play, and speak, and it turns out that those all have uses in later life: so why are colouring books an exception to this, if they have real-life uses and benefits? I have a friend who struggles with dissociative identity disorder (i.e., a split personality), and colouring books and other similar repetitive tasks were important steps in him going from pretty much being institutionalised to actually taking control of his own mind and returning to work and living with his family again. So laugh all you want; I say that if it works, great.

Originally posted by Scribble
Yeah, and it didn't link to the Happy Fun Peace Love and Love Day thing at all. The HFPL&LD thing was to help people with genuine mental health issues, and the Brown thing was to do with political stuff. Two very different scenarios.

I see it as another in a long line of grown ass adults needing to be coddled like children. I'm not the only one, hell even Adam said the Disney movie was going too far.

But sure, take the opportunity to run away from an argument again. If you want to address my other points, I'm still here.

That's awesome if it works for your friend, and it doesn't make it any less childish IMO. I suppose some adults benefit from being treated like children, is what I gather from you.

Let me give you a different example: If I was stressed and I mellowed out by watching Blues Clues, awesome, right? Great it helps, but it's still childish as f*ck. Would you sit there and argue that it is not?

Originally posted by Surtur
I see it as another in a long line of grown ass adults needing to be coddled like children. I'm not the only one, hell even Adam said the Disney movie was going too far.

That's awesome if it works for your friend, and it doesn't make it any less childish IMO. I suppose some adults benefit from being treated like children, is what I gather from you.

Let me give you a different example: If I was stressed and I mellowed out by watching Blues Clues, awesome, right? Great it helps, but it's still childish as f*ck. Would you sit there and argue that it is not?

Okay then, if those methods are childish, then tell me, from your experiences with adult life, i.e.: higher education, 9-5 jobs, long-term relationships, mortgages, children; what has worked best for you? How should fully-functioning adults deal with stress, depression and anxiety, in a 'mature' manner?

Also, yeah, sure, Blues Clues, a show for literal toddlers, may be pretty childish. But plenty of shows for older kids hold rewatch value for adults, so it's a bad example. Most Disney films are made with adult audiences in mind as much as children. And the colouring books they use are made for adults, so are more complex. You do realise that colouring comics is an actual job, right? All the comics you see are coloured by a guy who isn't the line artist. Is that a childish job, then?

I know jackshit about mental health treatments, though. So there's that lol.

Originally posted by Scribble
Okay then, if those methods are childish, then tell me, from your experiences with adult life, i.e.: higher education, 9-5 jobs, long-term relationships, mortgages, children; what has worked best for you? How should fully-functioning adults deal with stress, depression and anxiety, in a 'mature' manner?

Lol dude, deal with your stress however you want. It doesn't prevent people from calling out the methods.

Some people respond more to childish things, so for them I'd say go balls out, coloring books, a "Where's Waldo" book, etc.

You act like I said if the only thing between you and suicide is a coloring book..toss out that book out and go get yourself a noose.

This is yet another example in the continuing trend of us coddling adults, this is how I see it.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
I know jackshit about mental health treatments, though. So there's that lol.

But Scribble I'm pretty sure isn't a mental health professional lol, unless finding links online counts.

I mean hey I could be wrong, his experience could run deeper than studies he found on the internet.

Originally posted by Scribble
Also, yeah, sure, Blues Clues, a show for literal toddlers, may be pretty childish. But plenty of shows for older kids hold rewatch value for adults, so it's a bad example. Most Disney films are made with adult audiences in mind as much as children. And the colouring books they use are made for adults, so are more complex. You do realise that colouring comics is an actual job, right? All the comics you see are coloured by a guy who isn't the line artist. Is that a childish job, then?

You might as well ask me if the poor soul starring in Blues Clues is childish. He's making money, not doing it cuz he's single on Valentines Day.

Like I said, maybe I'd see it differently if we haven't been seeing so much coddling lately? But I can't delete that shit from my head. I guess it goes to show the negative effect people behaving this crazily can have?

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol dude, deal with your stress however you want. It doesn't prevent people from calling out the methods.

Some people respond more to childish things, so for them I'd say go balls out, coloring books, a "Where's Waldo" book, etc.

You act like I said if the only thing between you and suicide is a coloring book..toss out that book out and go get yourself a noose.

This is yet another example in the continuing trend of us coddling adults, this is how I see it.

Why call out the methods? Why judge everyone as if you're so perfect? None of us are perfect. I just don't understand that mindset. Why not just let people enjoy things?

You seem to see any kind of sympathy or empathy as 'coddling'. Should we stop giving people who work breaks? Why let them off that easily, it's not lunch time, like at school! Having breaks at work is childish, because kids get breaks, ergo proper adults shouldn't get breaks.

Do you see what I mean? Overly coddling adults isn't good, but maybe showing some of them that people can be nice and supportive of each other isn't such a bad thing. You don't have to go the complete opposite way just because you don't agree with aspects of something.

Originally posted by Surtur
You might as well ask me if the poor soul starring in Blues Clues is childish. He's making money, not doing it cuz he's single on Valentines Day.

Like I said, maybe I'd see it differently if we haven't been seeing so much coddling lately? But I can't delete that shit from my head. I guess it goes to show the negative effect people behaving this crazily can have?

No, that's different. A similar comparison would be asking you if someone who watched Blue's Blues for a living is childish. You claimed that colouring books were childish, and that watching Blue's Clues was childish, you didn't claim that acting in a kids show was childish. It doesn't help either of our points, but I thought I should point it out anyway.

Anyway, you're basically admitting that you let the world colour your worldview, so why not just like, not? It's not their fault for making you see life that way, so it's silly to blame them. That's entirely on you.

Originally posted by Surtur
But Scribble I'm pretty sure isn't a mental health professional lol, unless finding links online counts.

I mean hey I could be wrong, his experience could run deeper than studies he found on the internet.

I'm not a linguist either, but luckily I know how to speak and write from books. Isn't it funny how learning works?

(Also, you know that my experience runs deeper than that, I spoke about my friend with DPD, and my experiences at university... I mean your experiences with SJWs doesn't seem to extend past links you've found online, so what's your point?)

Lol who said I'm perfect, and what batshit crazy idea gave you the idea you need to be perfect to judge? We judge people everyday on tons of things. You ever date a chick? Boom, judged her worthy to date. Ever get a job? Boom, they judged you worthy to work for them. We're all about judgement as a people in nearly every aspect of life. I find it stupid, silly, and unrealistic for people to pretend otherwise.

You have a friend with a mental disorder, I have some too. So..okay? Also, your "experiences at university" are not something I've memorized. What does that even mean? Did you take a psych 101 class? I haven't memorized your class schedules. I do see you talk all the time about making movies and shit, so I hazarded a guess you aren't a mental health expert.

My point is the guy was going essentially "I'm no mental health expert" and I'm pointing out I haven't seen you demonstrate to be such a thing, despite you knowing a dude with a split personality. Would you classify yourself as a mental health expert?

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol who said I'm perfect, and what batshit crazy idea gave you the idea you need to be perfect to judge? We judge people everyday on tons of things. You ever date a chick? Boom, judged her worthy to date. Ever get a job? Boom, they judged you worthy to work for them. We're all about judgement as a people in nearly every aspect of life. I find it stupid, silly, and unrealistic for people to pretend otherwise.

You have a friend with a mental disorder, I have some too. So..okay? Also, your "experiences at university" are not something I've memorized. What does that even mean? Did you take a psych 101 class? I haven't memorized your class schedules. I do see you talk all the time about making movies and shit, so I hazarded a guess you aren't a mental health expert.

My point is the guy was going essentially "I'm no mental health expert" and I'm pointing out I haven't seen you demonstrate to be such a thing, despite you knowing a dude with a split personality. Would you classify yourself as a mental health expert?

Yeah, okay, very smart, so I guess I'll be really, really specific so that you don't get confused: I mean judging people harshly. Assuming the worst. For example, feeling right in calling someone childish because of the way that they combat their mental problems. I mean, there are plenty of people who deal with problems in less-than-perfect ways, and I don't see the point in judging them [in a bad way] because I don't know their lives or how they work, etc.

Yeah, no, that's not what I was saying, I was just pointing out that you said that I had no other experience with mental health other than articles found online (remember posting that?), when, in fact, I had.

I really don't see what relevance any of us having mental health expertise has on our ability to read something that a someone who is a mental health professional has wrote and then take information from.