Where do people rank Senya and Vaylin?

Started by S_W_LeGenD13 pages

Originally posted by Ursumeles
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@LeGenD Lmao. He supressed her power, because of her potential.
Or domyou wanna say Child Vaylin >> Arcann?


She was very strong even during her childhood and reckless.

Obviously. But do you think that she could beat Arcann as of KotFE in a Force Battle, even as child?

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Obviously. But do you think that she could beat Arcann as of KotFE in a Force Battle, even as child?

She was more powerful than her brothers throughout.

Originally posted by Azronger
Senya can stomp a bunch of fodder and has a lot of experience, so she's about Kas'im-level in skill and Force augmentation. Vaylin is a bit below PoD Bane-level in skill and Force augmentation, due to her being inferior to Senya in skill and not being strong enough in the Force to beat her. So I'd say both of them are high-level fodder as overall duelists.

Senya is an average Force sensitive, maybe a bit above. Vaylin can do a Force Maelstrom and ignite flammable objects with Lightning, as well as crush massive buildings with TK. Solidly below Dooku, but she can compete.

Overall, Senya's slightly above average, maybe Kanan-level overall, and Vaylin's about AotC Anakin-level.

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@LeG Raw power wise? Sure. But raw power wise is TPM Anakin > Valkorion.

Originally posted by Azronger
Senya can stomp a bunch of fodder and has a lot of experience, so she's about Kas'im-level in skill and Force augmentation. Vaylin is a bit below PoD Bane-level in skill and Force augmentation, due to her being inferior to Senya in skill and not being strong enough in the Force to beat her. So I'd say both of them are high-level fodder as overall duelists.

Senya is an average Force sensitive, maybe a bit above. Vaylin can do a Force Maelstrom and ignite flammable objects with Lightning, as well as crush massive buildings with TK. Solidly below Dooku, but she can compete.

Overall, Senya's slightly above average, maybe Kanan-level overall, and Vaylin's about AotC Anakin-level.

You gave them too much credit. 🙂

Originally posted by Azronger
Senya can stomp a bunch of fodder and has a lot of experience, so she's about Kas'im-level in skill and Force augmentation. Vaylin is a bit below PoD Bane-level in skill and Force augmentation, due to her being inferior to Senya in skill and not being strong enough in the Force to beat her. So I'd say both of them are high-level fodder as overall duelists.

Bunch of fodder who are better than an average Jedi Knight, individually.

Originally posted by Azronger
Senya is an average Force sensitive, maybe a bit above.

Excuse me?

Senya made it possible to lift the Gravestone from the ground, alongside Lana Beniko and the Outlander. Even if we assume that the latter was contributing more to the effort than the former two, Senya would still be capable of lifting tons of rocks from the ground. This is further apparent from the fact that Senya easily removed substantial amount of debris that was blocking her entrance to the chamber where Arcann was lying.

She is definitely above average.

Originally posted by Azronger
Vaylin can do a Force Maelstrom and ignite flammable objects with Lightning, as well as crush massive buildings with TK. Solidly below Dooku, but she can compete.

When have Count Dooku:

1. Destroyed a multi-story structure (or a building) and hurled its chunks like missiles towards a target?
2. Tanked an explosion that was potent enough to vaporize above-average Force-users?
3. Destroyed an entire contingent of Force-users?
4. Chugged Starships like missiles or even tore them apart?
5. Conjure a Force-maelstrom?

And after all that, she is solidly below Count Dooku? Common sense is a thing that needs to be taught now, I suppose.

Originally posted by Azronger
Overall, Senya's slightly above average, maybe Kanan-level overall, and Vaylin's about AotC Anakin-level.

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Originally posted by Ursumeles
But raw power wise is TPM Anakin > Valkorion.

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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
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Raw power = potential 🙄

Originally posted by Beniboybling
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If this guy is upping something, than that post is terribly faulty.

Not long ago, you asserted that Vaylin is not able to bring her raw power to bear in a fight effectively, that is why she lost to Senya. You should be ashamed of yourself.

You're still missing the point, Urs. I meant Force augmentation.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
If this guy is upping something, than that post is terribly faulty.

Not long ago, you asserted that Vaylin is not able to bring her raw power to bear in a fight effectively, that is why she lost to Senya. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
If this guy is upping something, than that post is terribly faulty.

Not long ago, you asserted that Vaylin is not able to bring her raw power to bear in a fight effectively, that is why she lost to Senya. You should be ashamed of yourself.


Ok. You are the only non-biased person on KMC, imo.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Ok. You are the only non-biased person on KMC, imo.

This has nothing to do with bias. This has to do with being objective and realistic.

His assessments are typically off the mark. I am busy right now, but I will dig his quotes out and put them in front of you.

Just a heads up darl, my opinion on that fight is unchanged. 👆

Which ****ing fight Beni?

Vaylin's first fight with Senya.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
This has nothing to do with bias. This has to do with being objective and realistic.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Bunch of fodder who are better than an average Jedi Knight, individually.

Quote?

Excuse me?

Senya made it possible to lift the Gravestone from the ground, alongside Lana Beniko and the Outlander. Even if we assume that the latter was contributing more to the effort than the former two, Senya would still be capable of lifting tons of rocks from the ground. This is further apparent from the fact that Senya easily removed substantial amount of debris that was blocking her entrance to the chamber where Arcann was lying.

She is definitely above average.

The Gravestone feat was a joint feat - not quantifiable. Then we are left with her other feats, which include, as you mentioned, removing debris, which is only somewhat above average, when compared to other fodder Force users - Read.

When have Count Dooku:

1. Destroyed a multi-story structure (or a building) and hurled its chunks like missiles towards a target?

He can be scaled when considering some of his vast inferiors have comparable feats.

2. Tanked an explosion that was potent enough to vaporize above-average Force-users?

I don't recall him doing that. But when has Vaylin done that?

3. Destroyed an entire contingent of Force-users?

He hasn't. However, Vaylin's methods of accomplishing that are unknown, and even people like Raskta Lsu have accomplished army busting.

4. Chugged Starships like missiles or even tore them apart?
5. Conjure a Force-maelstrom?

Both in Jedi Quest.

And after all that, she is solidly below Count Dooku? Common sense is a thing that needs to be taught now, I suppose.

I always cringe when someone holds their opinions as "common sense".

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But anyway, now it's my turn:

When has Vaylin dominated Force users with feats other than hurling debris?

When has Vaylin one-shot extremely powerful Force wielders with lightning?

When has Vaylin ever probed anyone with TP?

When has Vaylin ever blocked her own Force Lightning easily?

When has Vaylin ever called the abilities of the most powerful Ancient Sith as "lesser arts"?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
This has nothing to do with bias. This has to do with being objective and realistic.

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Valkorion >>>>>>>> The Father 👆