Originally posted by Ursumeles
No. 3>2>4. Take that Atheists.Anyway, I'll stop responding now, as we can wank Dooku now even better 🙂
Dooku >>> Ventress ~ Sorzus >> Muur > Vong Krayt.
I know you're joking with that list... but still...
But yeah, this does lend credence to the idea that Dooku is at least in Muur's ballpark.
Originally posted by Azronger
Quote?
In the nutshell:
Zakuul Knights don't limit themselves to studying one side of the Force, instead teaching balance and exploration. Knights have their own relationships with the Force, but are encouraged to share their findings with the rest of the order. No area is deemed "weak" or "a dangerous path"--they are all parts of a larger, limitless power.
Taken from the Codex Entry titled "Knights of Zakuul."
Originally posted by Azronger
The Gravestone feat was a joint feat - not quantifiable. Then we are left with her other feats, which include, as you mentioned, removing debris, which is only somewhat above average, when compared to other fodder Force users - Read.
Senya's role in that feat suggests that she should be logically capable of lifting tons of rock (or material) on her own.
Gravestone is a huge vessel. Even a minor contribution to its lift implies the capability of lifting tons of rock (or substance) at individual capacity.
Originally posted by Azronger
He can be scaled when considering some of his vast inferiors have comparable feats.
Originally posted by Azronger
I don't recall him doing that. But when has Vaylin done that?
A shrill whine rose like a scream: the sound of pressurized coolant spewing from a punctured hyperdrive. Senya had just long enough to register what had happened before the damaged hyperdrive exploded.
She came to a few seconds later, groggy, disoriented and with her ears ringing. The blast had thrown her twenty meters; tiny bits of twisted, melted metal that had once been the hull of the ship lay all around her. Forcing herself to her hands and knees, Senya turned her head from side to side, looking for Vaylin. But all she saw was smoke and flame; the fires had spread to consume the entire camp.
Arcann!
Somehow Senya rose unsteadily to her feet, then set off in a stumbling run back towards her ship and her son. As the flames fell farther and farther behind her, her head slowly cleared. Her thoughts briefly turned to the fallen knights, consumed by the funeral pyre that had once been their camp. They'd risked their lives to help her, and Vaylin had slaughtered them all.
She and Arcann were alone again. No allies. Nowhere to turn. But she was still alive… somehow.
The blast should have vaporized me.
There was only one explanation for her survival: Vaylin must have used the Force to shield them both from the worst of the explosion.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Knights of the Eternal Throne: A Mother's Hope
Originally posted by Azronger
He hasn't. However, Vaylin's methods of accomplishing that are unknown, and even people like Raskta Lsu have accomplished army busting.
With the rising flames, Senya finally witnessed the true carnage Vaylin had unleashed on the camp: dozens of Knights – bodies mutilated and mangled – had been tossed haphazardly amongst the scattered wreckage of ships and shuttles torn asunder. The full breadth of the slaughter sent a chill down her back; grim evidence of the horrors her daughter was capable of.
From Star Wars: The Old Republic: Knights of the Eternal Throne: A Mother's Hope
There are no ifs and buts about it. It is clearly a Yoda TIER showing.
Originally posted by Azronger
Both in Jedi Quest.
In contrast to Dooku's showing, Vaylin literally tore the Starships apart (including proper Shuttles) in fully functional state, on Ord Mantell. Vaylin's showing is clearly on another level than that of Dooku.
And Count Dooku never conjured a Force-maelstrom.
Originally posted by Azronger
I always cringe when someone holds their opinions as "common sense".
Post something cringe-worthy and somebody will notice and point it out to you.
Originally posted by Azronger
When has Vaylin dominated Force users with feats other than hurling debris?When has Vaylin one-shot extremely powerful Force wielders with lightning?
When has Vaylin ever probed anyone with TP?
When has Vaylin ever blocked her own Force Lightning easily?
When has Vaylin ever called the abilities of the most powerful Ancient Sith as "lesser arts"?
Vaylin have superior showings than Dooku in all spectrums where they can be directly compared.
I don't recall Vaylin using Force lightning by the way.
Originally posted by Ursumeles
Muur or Tyranus?
If Tyranus, then because he didn't predeced him at all.
And Palpatine didn't percieved Vitate/Ragnos/Kun as some of his most powerful predecessors either.
Originally posted by Azronger
Senya can stomp a bunch of fodder and has a lot of experience, so she's about Kas'im-level in skill and Force augmentation. Vaylin is a bit below PoD Bane-level in skill and Force augmentation, due to her being inferior to Senya in skill and not being strong enough in the Force to beat her. So I'd say both of them are high-level fodder as overall duelists.Senya is an average Force sensitive, maybe a bit above. Vaylin can do a Force Maelstrom and ignite flammable objects with Lightning, as well as crush massive buildings with TK. Solidly below Dooku, but she can compete.
Overall, Senya's slightly above average, maybe Kanan-level overall, and Vaylin's about AotC Anakin-level.
Why do you even post.
Originally posted by Ursumeles
He added her text because of her knowledge.
Heck, I doubt Tyranus wrote anything worthy enough for Sheev to being considered.
Clearly, co-existence was not excluded from assessment.
It wasn't even Dooku's opinion. Asajj called them "lesser arts" compared to Dooku's power. And based on what was it a Nightsister technique?
Not only is that a source that existed before Asajj was even considered a Nightsister, she didn't even know her heritage at the time, lmao.
What, did she just impulsively chant: "Ooga-Booga" and they came to life?
Besides, Dooku's also re-animated the dead in Jedi Quest: Showdown.
Originally posted by MythLord
It wasn't even Dooku's opinion. Asajj called them "lesser arts" compared to Dooku's power. And based on what was it a Nightsister technique?
Not only is that a source that existed before Asajj was even considered a Nightsister, she didn't even know her heritage at the time, lmao.
What, did she just impulsively chant: "Ooga-Booga" and they came to life?Besides, Dooku's also re-animated the dead in Jedi Quest: Showdown.
People said it was Dooku's opinion, but yes I see it was Ventress who said it. Then why is this even an issue? Ventress is even more ignorant than Dooku is. Who cares about some petulant shit she said at some point. Besides which, that its a complex ability doesn't mean its a particularly powerful one. I mean, Ventress wasn't even taught Force Lightning or like she said, any of the real deal Sith stuff. This doesn't imply that she or Dooku are remotely in Syn's league.
Originally posted by Azronger
I could ask you the same question, given that basically everyone on this forum considers you a literal joke.
At least people like jokes. I've never seen you say anything that wasn't utterly ignorant trash. You're even more of a biased shitheel than Legend.