Where do people rank Senya and Vaylin?

Originally posted by Azronger
The Gravestone feat was a joint feat - not quantifiable. Then we are left with her other feats, which include, as you mentioned, removing debris, which is only somewhat above average, when compared to other fodder Force users - Read.

Some of those Jedi weren't fodder, lmao. They were just obscure. B'ink was one of the best in her Order, as was Keelyvine Reus, as was Pablo Jill. Granted, someone like say Jeisel or Omani or Tyzen would very much be fodder.

Originally posted by Azronger
When has Vaylin ever called the abilities of the most powerful Ancient Sith as "lesser arts"?

When has Dooku done that?

Most of Vaylin feats are done on a nexus. Except losing to her mom, that wasn't nexus assisted.

Vaylin's raw power is in Vader's stratosphere, but her mastery tales a bit going by Emperor empirical evidence. She's prolly like, a, Corran Horn level duelist.

I have no idea where to Senya at all.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Vaylin's raw power is in Vader's stratosphere, but her mastery tales a bit going by Emperor empirical evidence. She's prolly like, a, Corran Horn level duelist.

I have no idea where to Senya at all.

Are you drunk?

I'm as sober as ever.

Unfortunately.

Originally posted by MythLord
[B]Some of those Jedi weren't fodder, lmao. They were just obscure. B'ink was one of the best in her Order, as was Keelyvine Reus, as was Pablo Jill. Granted, someone like say Jeisel or Omani or Tyzen would very much be fodder.

Whatever.

When has Dooku done that?

"Have I not taught you many secrets, Asajj?"

"Scraps. Little devices. Lesser arts. Not nearly what you would if I were your apprentice sworn in blood, I know. I am no fool," she said angrily. As if he didn't know that. As if she needed to convince him she was deadly. "I have learned much about the Sith. Their lineage and their greatness."

"But what of their natural history?" Dooku said. Ventress blinked. "What?"

"The Sith, considered as a species. An insect, perhaps." Asajj's thin lips got thinner. "You mock me."

"I have rarely been more serious." The Count paced over to a shelf of holocrons on the wall, plucked one out, and inserted it into the comm cube on his desk.

-Yoda: Dark Rendezvous

Note that Asajj has performed the Spell of Reanimation, a technique considered "complex" by Sorzus Syn, a peer of guys like Karness Muur and Remulus Dreypa.

Don't see why it's so hard to believe someone that is clearly stated/shaping up, to be a threat to Valkorion, is one Vader's level as far as raw power goes.

I meam, use your brain, lmao.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Don't see why it's so hard to believe someone that is clearly stated/shaping up, to be a threat to Valkorion, is one Vader's level as far as raw power goes.

I meam, use your brain, lmao.

By "raw power" do you mean potential or what she can use right now?

I mean, if both of them sat in a meditative trance is and tried to lift a simarly heavy object, they would perform analogous to the other.

Of course Vader's mastery, and combative usage still outstrip Vaylin's by a considerate margin until further notice.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Don't see why it's so hard to believe someone that is clearly stated/shaping up, to be a threat to Valkorion, is one Vader's level as far as raw power goes.

I meam, use your brain, lmao.

Originally posted by Azronger
Whatever.

"Have I not taught you many secrets, Asajj?"

"Scraps. Little devices. Lesser arts. Not nearly what you would if I were your apprentice sworn in blood, I know. I am no fool," she said angrily. As if he didn't know that. As if she needed to convince him she was deadly. "I have learned much about the Sith. Their lineage and their greatness."

"But what of their natural history?" Dooku said. Ventress blinked. "What?"

"The Sith, considered as a species. An insect, perhaps." Asajj's thin lips got thinner. "You mock me."

"I have rarely been more serious." The Count paced over to a shelf of holocrons on the wall, plucked one out, and inserted it into the comm cube on his desk.

-Yoda: Dark Rendezvous

Note that Asajj has performed the Spell of Reanimation, a technique considered "complex" by Sorzus Syn, a peer of guys like Karness Muur and Remulus Dreypa.

Sorzus is actually meant to be far more powerful than either Karness or Remulus... And yeah, that's legitimately impressive.

Originally posted by MythLord
Sorzus is actually meant to be far more powerful than either Karness or Remulus...

Originally posted by MythLord
Sorzus is actually meant to be far more powerful than either Karness or Remulus... And yeah, that's legitimately impressive.

Source?

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Wut? Far more powerful than Muur? o.o

Yeah. The gal made herself an amulet far greater than the ones Karness Muur and Remulus Dreypa possessed.

Originally posted by Azronger
Source?

"Though Karness will recieve the first, I will complete more than one amulet. The second will go to Dreypa, so those two fools can battle others unceasingly. The third shall be far stronger than the others, and it shall be mine."

-- Book of the Sith

So Asajj is casually performing sorcery that is "complex" as per the opinion of Muur's superior, and she's in ragdoll range of Dooku... 🙂 🙂 🙂

Yeah, we don't know if she ever created it, tho 😬

Unless she died extremely early in her career... No, I don't think it's neccessarily wrong to assume she did make it, especially when she made one for Dreypa.

Originally posted by MythLord
Unless she died extremely early in her career... No, I don't think it's neccessarily wrong to assume she did make it, especially when she made one for Dreypa.

The second will go to Dreypa, so those two fools can battle others unceasingly. The third shall be far stronger than the others, and it shall be mine.

It is not neccessarily wrong either to assume she didn't make it.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
What has this to do with anything.
2 comes before 3. 😛

It is not neccessarily wrong either to assume she didn't make it.

No sh!t, 2 comes before three. My point is she planned on making three, and given how her journal goes on for quite a length of time since she made that statement, I see no reason to assume she wouldn't make it.

So far she's batting two for three, at least. Besides, even assuming she didn't make the third one, she still alchemically made a sorcery-empowered object that allows Muur to handle himself against the likes of Krayt and yet still considers a spell like the ones Asajj pulls off and Dooku thinks of as "lesser arts", as a complex one.

Originally posted by MythLord
No sh!t, 2 comes before three. My point is she planned on making three, and given how her journal goes on for quite a length of time since she made that statement, I see no reason to assume she wouldn't make it.

So far she's batting two for three, at least. Besides, even assuming she didn't make the third one, she still alchemically made a sorcery-empowered object that allows Muur to handle himself against the likes of Krayt and yet still considers a spell like the ones Asajj pulls off and Dooku thinks of as "lesser arts", as a complex one.

Anyway, I'll stop responding now, as we can wank Dooku now even better 🙂

Dooku >>> Ventress ~ Sorzus >> Muur > Vong Krayt.