Originally posted by h1a8This is all the proof needed of a troll response.
Miyagi wins for the same reason he beats Ip Man.
Miyagi has superhuman speed and perceptions.
Miyagi will not attack first. He will counter, instantly, Chen's attack and put him down in a few blows.
Chen Zhen the same character played by Bruce Lee. He has shown legitimate superhuman speed and strength. In both portrayals by Donnie and Bruce.
Originally posted by KingD19
So 1 he can counter attack a strike with the force Chen Zhen can deliver?And 2 Chen's gonna stand there on the chance he does counter and just...not counter again? He's shit tons faster than Miyagi and if you say he isn't, you're just blatantly lying.
Finally, someone for the first time to address my argument. Everyone else has trolled by ignoring my argument.
I don't quite understand your first sentence. Are you asking can Miyagi deliver a counter attack at the force equal to what Chen can attack with? Or are you asking if Miyagi can parry a Chen level attack?
If the former, then
Yes he can counter attack Chen. But the force Miyagi uses would be sufficient in hurting Chen.
If the latter then it only takes a small fraction of the force to parry an attack. Miyagi has the reflexes and hand speed to parry any attack made by Chen and almost simultaneously counter. Remember Miyagi is also very skilled at Aikido. This allows Miyagi to use Chen's momentum against himself.
It doesn't have to be at a particular force. Just enough to hurt Chen.
Being faster in attacking is irrelevant here. All that matters is does one have the speed to defend and counter. Miyagi has the ability to counter simultaneously as he parries. Once Chen throws an attack he is open to being attacked.
Miyagi has casually caught an arrow (speed and reflexes) and has shown tremendous hand speed (breaking bottles and a tree). So Chen is not tremendously faster (if any).
Originally posted by h1a8
So I guess people don't believe that1. Miyagi has the reflexes and speed to parry Chen's first attack.
Or
2. Miyagi doesn't have the speed to counter AFTER he parried the attack.
Which one?
How about you show us an example of Miyagi countering someone of Chen's skill and/or speed.
Originally posted by Dexx-Planet86
lol people on kmc are dumb. chen zhen isnt even olympic level. miyagi casually catched a arrows flying at mach 10 shoot from point blank and has casually broke a massive log. miyagi knocks his skull off with a karate chopbecause hes more skilled than chen zhen moron
any evidence to back up your claim that miyagi caught an arrow travelling at mach 10 speed? lol
Originally posted by Drsoe08
provide some evidence please
Miyagi has shown reaction speed to things that moved far faster than Chen. Miyagi has shown hand speed above human level. Miyagi has shown superhuman strength as well.
Here are some of his feats.
1. He casually caught an arrow. This requires superhuman speed and reactions. Note: He did it casually. That means he can achieve a greater feat with more effort.
2. He broke several beer bottles with little to no liquid in them. This takes crazy hand speed.
3. Miyagi broke a tree in half with one chop.
4. Miyagi threw a man over 10 feet through the air through a swinging door.
5. Miyagi CASUALLY dodge a flurry of fast attacks by a karate master.
Originally posted by KingD19
Or blocking or catching or redirecting and attack that has sent larger younger men than him flying.
Miyagi has shown superhuman strength. He tossed a man 10 feet through the air and through a swing door. He chopped a tree in half. He broke bottles with no little to no liquid in them.
It takes almost a tiny fraction of the force of an attack to parry it.
For example, if a punch is 2000psi then it would take the same force to parry if the punch was 100psi. Why? Because parrying is done almost 90% from the direction of the attack. There will be no counter force. The force that's needed is the force to push a dead human's arm out of the way.
Also Miyagi is very adept at Aikido jujitsu techniques. He can use Chen's momentum against himself. A punch is instantly turned into a throw without using any counter forces to the punch (just adding to the punch and applying some misdirection).
Originally posted by Silent Master
How about you show us an example of Miyagi countering someone of Chen's skill and/or speed.
It takes very little to no skill to parry an attack. Great skill isn't a requirement. Speed and reflexes is though.
It takes only a fraction of the speed of an attacker to parry their attacks. Miyagi moved his hands at superhuman speeds multiple times. He also has reacted to speeds far faster than Chen. So he easily has the speed and skill to parry Chen.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Instead of just repeating your opinion, how about showing us an example of Miyagi countering someone of Chen's skill and/or speed?
If someone is shown to do greater things, then it's in their capability to do lesser things.
That's like asking for an example of Superman lifting a horse (to prove he can) when he was shown to lift greater things. And then calling the claim that he can lift a horse AN OPINION. This is trolling.
I already proven That Miyagi has the capability of parrying a Chen attack by providing feats that are greater.