Mr. Miyagi vs Chen Zhen (Donnie Yen)

Started by Silent Master9 pages
Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't see the question. Whether you think I lied or not you are refusing to post the question again. Which means that I'm off the hook. Fine with me. I did my part

Your excuse falls short, seeing as you just quoted the question about 7 posts ago.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your excuse falls short, seeing as you just quoted the question about 7 posts ago.
I probably did. I have no idea. Doesn't change what I said.

Originally posted by h1a8
I probably did. I have no idea. Doesn't change what I said.

Why not just go back 7 posts and read the question, it's right there on page 8 of this thread.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
He's trying to move the discussion forward via fillers to bury King's bz challenge.

So, h1 do you accept King's challenge?

Originally posted by KingD19
I formally challenge you to a Battlezone, h1a8.

Mr. Miyagi vs Chen Zhen

It can be simple. Feats vs Feats. We both post whatever feats they have we think will help their case. Explain why we think it helps and why we think they win.

Impartial mods for judges.

It'll be quick I promise.

He has to answer my questions truthfully, otherwise no.

Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't see the question. Whether you think I lied or not you are refusing to post the question again. Which means that I'm off the hook. Fine with me. I did my part

Except you quoted and responded to it with this:

Originally posted by h1a8
It shouldn't have hurt him period, no matter who did it. I question his durability after that.

Which was not what I asked you. You claimed the concrete did the KO'ing:

Originally posted by h1a8
The concrete koed Loki. If Loki was extremely durable then the concrete should have felt like soft fluffy bed.

While not addressing the role the Hulk played in the scenario. I therefore asked you whether getting slammed would have had the same result that we see in the film (regardless of your opinion on whether it should or should not have happened at all), if it had been done by Captain America. A simple yes/no question which, by your own standards in this thread, you did not answer, and tried to make "unnecessarily complicated". My question was directly related to the fact that force of impact influences the damage caused to an individual/the environment.

So, the fact that you keep insisting you "didn't see it" proves that you are a liar.

Anyway, I am seriously done with your antics at this point. I am putting you on Ignore. Congratulations, you are only the second person ever to earn a spot on that list, and the other guy who was on there worked his way off a while ago.

Originally posted by h1a8
He has to answer my questions truthfully, otherwise no.

Got it, you're running away from another challenge.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Except you quoted and responded to it with this:

Which was not what I asked you. You claimed the concrete did the KO'ing:

While not addressing the role the Hulk played in the scenario. I therefore asked you whether getting slammed would have had the same result that we see in the film (regardless of your opinion on whether it should or should not have happened at all), if it had been done by Captain America. A simple yes/no question which, by your own standards in this thread, you did not answer, and tried to make "unnecessarily complicated". My question was directly related to the fact that force of impact influences the damage caused to an individual/the environment.

So, the fact that you keep insisting you "didn't see it" proves that you are a liar.

Anyway, I am seriously done with your antics at this point. I am putting you on Ignore. Congratulations, you are only the second person ever to earn a spot on that list, and the other guy who was on there worked his way off a while ago.

If the same damage is done to the concrete then yes, it will have the same effect. This is because force is in pairs.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Got it, you're running away from another challenge.
Why participate in a challenge if you don't agree with terms?

If we are arguing visual speed then why participate in a losing challenge? Miyagi is visually slower. If we agree to necessary speed to perform a feat being true speed (visual speed is meaningless) the that's different.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why participate in a challenge if you don't agree with terms?

If we are arguing visual speed then why participate in a losing challenge? Miyagi is visually slower. If we agree to necessary speed to perform a feat being true speed (visual speed is meaningless) the that's different.

The BZ is Miyagi vs Chen Zhen, you are both free to make whatever argument you want.

So, do you accept or are you going to run away?

Originally posted by h1a8
Why participate in a challenge if you don't agree with terms?

If we are arguing visual speed then why participate in a losing challenge? Miyagi is visually slower. If we agree to necessary speed to perform a feat being true speed (visual speed is meaningless) the that's different.

You realize that either way Chen Zhen would win, correct?

The "speed" it takes to shatter "empty" bottles vs the "speed" it takes to hit a fully grown man and send him violently flying through the air.

The "speed" it takes to catch a slow arrow vs the "speed" it takes to outrun a mounted machinegun, run almost horizontal to the ground, run as fast as a car, and jump 20 feet straight up.

Miyagi fighting two whole karate masters. Vs Chen Zhen decimating dozens of opponents at once, sending many of them flying.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The BZ is Miyagi vs Chen Zhen, you are both free to make whatever argument you want.

So, do you accept or are you going to run away?

I happened to browse this thread without being logged in, and noticed that H1 basically conceded that other point, by adding his "if the same damage was done to the concrete" qualifier i.e. only if Cap could exert an equal amount of force to what the Hulk did. Though I will give him props for finally answering the question.

Originally posted by KingD19
You realize that either way Chen Zhen would win, correct?

The "speed" it takes to shatter "empty" bottles vs the "speed" it takes to hit a fully grown man and send him violently flying through the air.

The "speed" it takes to catch a slow arrow vs the "speed" it takes to outrun a mounted machinegun, run almost horizontal to the ground, run as fast as a car, and jump 20 feet straight up.

Miyagi fighting two whole karate masters. Vs Chen Zhen decimating dozens of opponents at once, sending many of them flying.

Well that welcome the challenge of sufficient speed, not visual speed. I'll debate it here with you if you like. I'll prove that Miyagi, had to be faster than Chen, when performing those feats.

Originally posted by h1a8
Well that welcome the challenge of sufficient speed, not visual speed. I'll debate it here with you if you like. I'll prove that Miyagi, had to be faster than Chen, when performing those feats.

IOW, you're running from the BZ.

Chen Zhen wins.