Originally posted by Drsoe08
bone defeated no name street fighters while ip man defeated different martial arts masters.you guys stretching bones capabilities too much.
Majority of the fighters IP fought were also no name fighters. And if you want to claim that they were "master martial artists" then we should also consider that Bone fought through fighter rankings, which means he started eventually fighting opponents who've fought and won multiple fights... and he beat them with more ease than Ip man.
Then you have the Twister fight which proves that Ip doesn't quite have the knockout power to to easily take out a heavyweight.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Majority of the fighters IP fought were also no name fighters. And if you want to claim that they were "master martial artists" then we should also consider that Bone fought through fighter rankings, which means he started eventually fighting opponents who've fought and won multiple fights... and he beat them with more ease than Ip man.Then you have the Twister fight which proves that Ip doesn't quite have the knockout power to to easily take out a heavyweight.
The Masters were all known as the best fighters in China. Ip beat all of them easily. And they all had names as they ran their own schools for decades, and beat multiple other Masters each to attain their ranks.
Almost no one Bone fought even had a name aside from The Hammer and Pretty Boy Price.
Frank(Tyson) would shit on Twister, and Ip tied with him. He sent a guy flying out of a bullpen, using a block pad, with a straight right. Ip went the distance and time ran out.
But if you want to use Twister, keep in mind Ip was prohibited from kicking and grappling, which crippled his entire fighting style. Also note that because of that, we see Ip has no problem using pressure points and attacking muscles/nerves etc... directly.
So you have Ip who is faster, more skilled, stronger(he has feats sending guys flying with slight taps and destroying concrete with a wooden staff) than anyone Bone fought. And is also a main character. Who beat all of his opponents with ease except the Masters(who he held back against out of respect for their seniority), Twister(he was gimped and still easily won once he figured out his tactics), and Frank(a superhuman boxer who he went even with)
He is leagues above anyone Bone fought, who were apparently all trash as he didn't struggle a single time in the entire movie, even against the world champ.
Originally posted by Drsoe08
best underground fighter in the world with no feats, yeah bone will definitely win 🙄
so what feats exactly did all those "masters" have in and of the Ip movies?? the one master who was on equal terms with Ip got killed by twister and everyone else...whos featless btw he made all of em look like chumps. even the other wing chun master in Ip 3 had the same feats as Ip (fighting the gang) and they were even until the end of their 1v1 fight so anyone who has even an iota of provable feats Ip always has trouble with, Bone on the other hand dummied everyone with EASE.
Originally posted by relentless1
so what feats exactly did all those "masters" have in and of the Ip movies?? the one master who was on equal terms with Ip got killed by twister and everyone else...whos featless btw he made all of em look like chumps. even the other wing chun master in Ip 3 had the same feats as Ip (fighting the gang) and they were even until the end of their 1v1 fight so anyone who has even an iota of provable feats Ip always has trouble with, Bone on the other hand dummied everyone with EASE.
Ip struggled because the other fighters are also skilled, second he took tons of damage from twister but still won the fight
Unlike bone who only defeated street chumps with no skill ip man defeated fighters with substantial skill ( twister, the 10 black belts, the Northerner, the other wing chun master etc.)
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Ip vs Cheung Tin Chi
Notice here Ip uses both the staff and the butterfly knives from the OP. Notice the skill, speed, and precision. As well as the sheer strength(puncturing and damaging concrete with a staff, injuring ears with the reverberation of their blades, etc...)
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Bone vs Pretty Boy Price(Underground World Champ)
Notice that while skilled, Bone and Price are both slow as shit.
Bone Sword Fight
Here he uses the sword/scabbard from the op. Again, notice just how slow he is.
Bone shouldn't even land a hit on Ip who takes on dozens of armed men at once without getting touched.
Originally posted by KingD19It depends on the Martial Art being used.
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Ip vs Cheung Tin ChiNotice here Ip uses both the staff and the butterfly knives from the OP. Notice the skill, speed, and precision. As well as the sheer strength(puncturing and damaging concrete with a staff, injuring ears with the reverberation of their blades, etc...)
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Bone vs Pretty Boy Price(Underground World Champ)Notice that while skilled, Bone and Price are both slow as shit.
Bone Sword Fight
Here he uses the sword/scabbard from the op. Again, notice just how slow he is.
Bone shouldn't even land a hit on Ip who takes on dozens of armed men at once without getting touched.
Not every martial art is fast and flashy like wing chun.
There are even forms of Martial Arts that only cover holds and breaking holds, with striking not being an aspect of him.
Also, its because Bone is being smart and sizing up his opponent, neither Price nor Bone wants to mess up against each other, because one mistake can end it. Sizing up is actually part of the movie.
You first see it when Bone fights Big Lamar, and then against the "Man with the Golden Grill", and against Price as well. Both testing each other to see if they will flinch.
Bone's superior technique and power might just negate Ip Man's speed altogether.
Bone also doesn't have to be incredibly fast with his blows, he just needs to be fast enough to dodge, then find a way to counter.
Problem is, Ip Man IS quite skilled, so its a toss-up.
Originally posted by Drsoe08
Ip struggled because the other fighters are also skilled, second he took tons of damage from twister but still won the fightUnlike bone who only defeated street chumps with no skill ip man defeated fighters with substantial skill ( twister, the 10 black belts, the Northerner, the other wing chun master etc.)
Funny how you're willing to attribute skill to IP's opponents based solely on the fact that they're called "masters" and yet refuse to attribute skill to Pretty boy Price despite him being world champion. Biased much?
Originally posted by KingD19
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Ip vs Cheung Tin ChiNotice here Ip uses both the staff and the butterfly knives from the OP. Notice the skill, speed, and precision. As well as the sheer strength(puncturing and damaging concrete with a staff, injuring ears with the reverberation of their blades, etc...)
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Bone vs Pretty Boy Price(Underground World Champ)Notice that while skilled, Bone and Price are both slow as shit.
Bone Sword Fight
Here he uses the sword/scabbard from the op. Again, notice just how slow he is.
Bone shouldn't even land a hit on Ip who takes on dozens of armed men at once without getting touched.
1. Lightweights will almost always be faster than heavyweights. Simple physics. Doesn't mean they can't get hit by heavyweights. See Twister fight.
2. Just because Bone isn't always striking doesn't mean he's slow. He's good at picking his shots and his shots are almost always powershots, capable of knocking out heavyweights with one hit. Ip man won't survive too many of those hits. And Ip won't be able to do much if Bone gets him to the ground.
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Ip vs Frank(Mike Tyson)
Frank is several times stronger than Twister, having borderline if not just over the edge super strength in the film. And also a better fighter and faster as well, seeing as how he tied with Ip who was going all out, and is even bigger than Twister. Yet Twister lost to a gimped Ip with fewer feats. Bone is just slow in comparison.
Ip has already tied with this guy, who would beat Bone imo based on comparative fights/feats.
Round 2 definitely goes to Ip, who has far more and better weapon feats.