Which brings me back to my original point: Despite the numerous feats and displayed skills by Ip man when fighting against martial artists the same size as him, he always has trouble dealing with heavyweights. Not only is Bone bigger than both Twister and Frank, he's also a lot more skilled with a lot more versatile.
Originally posted by KingD19
Bone is also slow as shit compared to the heavyweights in Ip Man. And has no superhuman feats like Ip and several of his opponents(Frank, Tin Chi, Northerner).
False. Did you see the beginning of the Price fight? Bone and Price were snapping out attacks fast. Bone had 0 trouble blocking, dodging and parrying.
Remember mixed martial arts is superior to wing Chun. If Bone grabs ip man and takes the fight to the ground then it is over.
Originally posted by h1a8
False. Did you see the beginning of the Price fight? Bone and Price were snapping out attacks fast. Bone had 0 trouble blocking, dodging and parrying.
Starting at around 1:45, show me examples of Bones blocking attacks at this level of speed.
Remember mixed martial arts is superior to wing Chun. If Bone grabs ip man and takes the fight to the ground then it is over.
According to what movie?
Originally posted by KingD19
Bone is also slow as shit compared to the heavyweights in Ip Man. And has no superhuman feats like Ip and several of his opponents(Frank, Tin Chi, Northerner).
Bone can jump in the air, kick 3-4 people before he lands back on the ground. Frank and Twister have nowhere near that kind of speed feat.
Majority of fighters in the Ip Man movies send people flying or skidding with hits, yet they never really seem injured that much by these hits. In comparison Bone doesn't send his opponents flying as much but knocks them out with single hits or so.
So if we take these into account then we can say Ip will send Bone flying with a kick which won't really injure him whereas Bone will just kick Ip and knock him out.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Wouldn't them being unhurt by a strike that sends them flying be a testament to their durability, rather than proof that the hit wasn't that strong?
In order to accept that logic, we must assume that every character in the Ip man universe who's ever been hit all have superhuman durability. Even the random thugs who get kicked by Ip Man and get sent flying, only to get up moments later.
Originally posted by FrothByte
In order to accept that logic, we must assume that every character in the Ip man universe who's ever been hit all have superhuman durability. Even the random thugs who get kicked by Ip Man and get sent flying, only to get up moments later.
If they have feats of above normal durability, why wouldn't we?
Originally posted by Silent Master
If they have feats of above normal durability, why wouldn't we?
If you believe that just about every guy in the IP Man movies is superhuman, then that's not something I will argue against because there won't be an argument to be made. Hong Kong wire-fu flicks will always have more exaggerated "flying from hits" compared to no-wire direct to dvd movies like Blood and Bone and Undisputed 2/3.
If people are going to claim Ip is superhuman then I might as well make an Ip Man vs. Frank Martin thread.
Originally posted by FrothByte
If you believe that just about every guy in the IP Man movies is superhuman, then that's not something I will argue against because there won't be an argument to be made. I might as well make an Ip Man vs. Frank Martin thread.
I suppose you could just ignore what the feats clearly show. I mean h1 does it all the time.
lets set the record straight.
bone's opponents were street thugs/street fighters w/o any martial arts background whatsoever (except price even tho he was featless world champ).
on the other hand ip defeated martial arts masters(story wise), he struggled to defeat some of these masters indicating that they have high level of skill while bone just stomped all his opponents with ease this also indicates that he faced chumps w/no skill.
its just saying that if kimbo(bone) can stomp all street fighters with ease then he can take on a master like fedor(ip man) because he defeated a bunch of chumps.
and third ip man showed more durability feats than bone, for we all know bone has a glass chin or something like that, his limits was not tested because he faced some incompetent street fighters.