It'd be a double standard if we dismissed the offscreen portion of the F.B. vs. Ahsoka fight yet took into consideration the offscreen portion of Maul vs. Ahsoka, but that isn't the case. Dismissing it as a low showing is logical given Ahsoka's combative level suggested by feats and statements by Filoni and the various quotes regarding her standing next to the Inquisitors (i.e. being inarguably their vast superior).
Filoni's never stated he's their vast superior. And based on Ahsoka's near-parity with the Seventh Sister in combat in the first fight, and her near-parity with the other Inquisitor in their second fight, that's clearly not what he's going for either. Ahsoka's obviously the superior, but by no means leaps-and-bounds (compared to a Dark Lord of the Sith like Darth Malak, who's putting down legitimately powerful Jedi, who can affect thousands of individuals simultaneously, like flies).
Originally posted by |King Joker|
It'd be a double standard if we dismissed the offscreen portion of the F.B. vs. Ahsoka fight yet took into consideration the offscreen portion of Maul vs. Ahsoka, but that isn't the case. Dismissing it as a low showing is logical given Ahsoka's combative level suggested by feats and statements by Filoni and the various quotes regarding her standing next to the Inquisitors (i.e. being inarguably their vast superior).
Who says Maul vs Ahsoka (if they even dueled for a prolonged time offscreen) isn't a low showing for Maul? I mean we've seen his superior performance against the Inquisitors and StarWars.com still implies he's the strongest member of the group and don't begin with your theory about how "Maul was better suited to fight the Inquisitors etc" since those factors weren't a problem in Future of the Force.
The fact that Ahsoka couldn't get past the defenses of the Fifth Brother only shows how unreliable these offscreen duels are, you can either accept them or you can dismiss them but there isn't a way in between.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9The only thing you have to base that off of is a superior showing against Inquisitors and the SW.com quote which is entirely context-dependent because it's about the team's current enemy, the Inquisitors, and who is the superior team member to face their current enemies. Ahsoka contending with Vader, "standing with the best" when it comes to Force usage, and the general hype surrounding her abilities paints a pretty ****ing clear picture that she's up there, so claiming it could being a low showing for Maul is retarded.
Who says Maul vs Ahsoka (if they even dueled for a prolonged time offscreen) isn't a low showing for Maul?
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9All of this has been addressed before, I'm not interested in going around in circles again.
I mean we've seen his superior performance against the Inquisitors and StarWars.com still implies he's the strongest member of the group and don't begin with your theory about how "Maul was better suited to fight the Inquisitors etc" since those factors weren't a problem in Future of the Force.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9Then your Inquisitor benchmark for Maul being superior to Ahsoka is severely diminished, if we were to go that route.
The fact that Ahsoka couldn't get past the defenses of the Fifth Brother only shows how unreliable these offscreen duels are, you can either accept them or you can dismiss them.
Question: Which of these instances is the very obvious outlier?
A) Ahsoka casually trashes the 5th bro while also fighting the 7th sis before instantly martially dominating the 7th sis while unarmed when getting serious. Filoni stated Ahsoka was never in any danger in that fight.
B) Ahsoka duels the 5th bro for a lengthy period of time.
C) Ahsoka charges the 5th bro when nobody else is actively attacking him and instantly disarms him.
D) Ahsoka duels Maul for a lengthy period of time
E) Ahsoka duels Vader for a lengthy period of time and does admirably (holds her ground at several points, pushes him with TK, only gets slowly driven back, lands a headshot while Vader is somewhat distracted but still sees her coming and has enough awareness to block a strike from her, and meets him in a bladelock while facing the other way without dying). (This is keeping in mind Vader is stated to be insanely beyond the likes of Kanan and Ezra, casually trashed them at the same time in a duel, instantly overwhelmed Ezra in a duel, and was easily overpowering both at the same time with TK, and both Kanan and Ezra have matched inquisitors in combat while they clearly aren't close to competing with Vader while Ahsoka can.)
Spoiler:
It's B, but people are probably still going to pretend she's not that far ahead of the inquisitors for some reason.
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I would say all but B) are outliers.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
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Originally posted by Emperordmb👆 The straw grasping from DD and Ant is cringe inducing.
Question: Which of these instances is the very obvious outlier?A) Ahsoka casually trashes the 5th bro while also fighting the 7th sis before instantly martially dominating the 7th sis while unarmed when getting serious. Filoni stated Ahsoka was never in any danger in that fight.
B) Ahsoka duels the 5th bro for a lengthy period of time.
C) Ahsoka charges the 5th bro when nobody else is actively attacking him and instantly disarms him.
D) Ahsoka duels Maul for a lengthy period of time
E) Ahsoka duels Vader for a lengthy period of time and does admirably (holds her ground at several points, pushes him with TK, only gets slowly driven back, lands a headshot while Vader is somewhat distracted but still sees her coming and has enough awareness to block a strike from her, and meets him in a bladelock while facing the other way without dying). (This is keeping in mind Vader is stated to be insanely beyond the likes of Kanan and Ezra, casually trashed them at the same time in a duel, instantly overwhelmed Ezra in a duel, and was easily overpowering both at the same time with TK, and both Kanan and Ezra have matched inquisitors in combat while they clearly aren't close to competing with Vader while Ahsoka can.)Spoiler:
It's B, but people are probably still going to pretend she's not that far ahead of the inquisitors for some reason.