Originally posted by Zenwolf
I still find this quote extremely bizarre, since Kavar is...ya know a Jedi GUARDIAN....Which...ya know, their main focus IS LIGHTSABER COMBAT!
Lol yea, Kavar was pretty strange all things considered. His lightsaber skills aren't as good as the other masters', yet he dual wields for whatever reason and is as you mentioned a famed jedi guardian .
Originally posted by Zenwolf
I just felt some wires were crossed, I'm not saying Kavar can't be powerful....but him not being as good as the others in saber combat is just weird.
Considering that contradicts the game itself, wouldn't that be considered secondary at best and overruled? I meant that this part specifically is contradicted by the game: if the Exile is a Jedi Guardian, he refers to you as being part of the same group of specialized Jedi Knights as him; and seeing as he's the one that teaches the Exile/Meetra the seventh form/Juyo, which is restricted only to the most advanced and capable duelists going by other sides like Jedi vs Sith, and he's the "famed Jedi Guardian", the implications are he's the Windu of the Jedi Order during the war.
I mean its like saying from that source Windu "isn't as noted for his dueling skills but makes up for it with his Force powers" is kind of wonky given what we know about him; same applies for Kavar.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Go and actually play the game and get back to me.Nadd's tomb is located on Dxun, an extreme dark side nexus:
What in the hell does any of that mean? The Lost Jedi are more masterful in both the Force and Lightsaber combat. Hence the paragraph.
The Echani are 'superhumanly augmented' precogs who have some of the greatest Martial arts in all of the mythos. So no, not really.
The Cut-Content is reflected by the original game script, before time constraints forced Obsidian to cut out content to make it for a release. Besides which, this is all Legends content, nothing is aftually Canon. Your appeals to invalidity aren't going to work.
The Lost Jedi stomp.
Yes, I looked into. You neglected to mention they accomplished this with a team of other companions at their back.
Fair enough. Something Visas herself would benefit from.
I'm saying that blitzing the handmaidens is not superior to dueling evenly with somebody who's blocking/dodging hundreds of blaster bolts.
"The Echani are superhumanly augmented"
Quote. And then please provide the extent of their augmentation.
Cut content is non canon, doesn't matter which way you spin it.
We go by the levels of canon established within continuity when debating Legends.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Given Vrook is clearly a Senior High Council member, like Vandar clearly is, thus would be Kavar's better anyway. And that Atris had already started using Sith holocrons . . . It isn't very weird at all in that context.
In Force? Sure I can buy that.
But sabers? I'm not really seeing it add up.
It's whatever though I guess. /Shrug, it still kinda makes my face scrunch a little in confusion.
Originally posted by Solar Power
I believe this was the Exile after completing the first planet, so honestly it's up to whichever planet you decide to do first. I always suspected Nar Shadaa was the first planet since that was the planet Atton mentioned on Citadel Station, but there are less obvious hints to other planets like Onderon and Dantooine on Telos as well, so it's up in the air.Korriban is the only planet I would logically strike out, considering that Kreia bars you from entering the hidden Sith tomb for not being strong enough, and you would somehow have to beat Sion once, which doesn't really make sense for early game Exile to do.
So on Dantooine the most impressive feat is defending the Jedi Enclave from mercenaries, clearing a Kinrath Cave, and exploring the Jedi Temple which involves fighting hordes of laigreks.
On Nar Shadaa, the Exile fights through a bar of mercs, and clan of Gand hunters. She fights an Exchange Boss's Ubese guards, and storms G0-T0's yacht, which had some of the most dangerous bounty hunters in the galaxy.
On Dxun, the Exile kills a bunch of beasts, including a Zakkeg, which is noted to have hide comparable in thickness to durasteel plating. She also learns beast control here, nothing special, but just fyi. She kills some Onderon guards and beast riders on Onderon.The Exile has her Telos feats too, the most impressive of which I would say is surviving a shuttle crash and then proceeding to cut through a small army of Czerka mercs and beat a tank droid and then tanking another shuttle crash and shortly afterwards beating 3 HK-51 droids.
It's notable that the Exile did not have a lightsaber in game when fighting Visas, but I believe Sunrazer has corrected in saying that the Kotor II game files says she does (citation needed).
And the Exile's companions powers could affect her to some degree at that point?
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
And the Exile's companions powers could affect her to some degree at that point?
There's some game mechanics I believe, Kreia and the Exile's force bonds are notable, and would help in the achievement of some of the feats I would imagine. I don't think she benefits from other companions aside from the whole "you were draining your companions the entire time" plot point.
Yeah is there anything other than quotes that apply very specifically to either G-Canon in Legends, or Canon? Or in other words is there anything other than quotes that specifically apply to deleted content that came straight from the people with absolute authority over the continuity? Because the KOTOR II writers are not George Lucas in Legends or the Story Group in Canon, and their deleted material should not be held to the same standards of validity as material that came from the heads of continuity.