The Exile's apprentices vs Inquisitors (Rebels)

Originally posted by AncientPower
You called me a liar because you completely lack a comprehension of the way the game works.

Do you have an actual argument for the inquisitors or are you wasting my time?

I already presented them. Unless the Exile's party has feats that are superior to lifting up a Lightside temple that was visibly resisting their influence and matching the power of a ships thrusters the Inquisitors are more powerful. None of the feats you presented that aren't cut content scale up to that level of power.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nah, but Selenial posted it in a blog she wrote a while back, tbh.

What's AP's blog called?

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
What's AP's blog called?

Lmao. xD

What's "Sel's" blog called?

There were only three of them there, what the hell are you smoking?

Except she is canonically redeemed by the Exile. Have you even played Kotor II?

I like how you decided to ignore 'precogs', you baffoon.

The C-continuity died, welcome to 2014. Yet again you've failed to make an argument bar appeals to invalidity, the script is Legends and so are the original game files. Cut Content merely restores what was meant to be there.

Concede or make a worthy argument.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Lmao. xD

What's "Sel's" blog called?

Originally posted by AncientPower
Yet again you've failed to make an argument bar appeals to invalidity, the script is Legends and so are the original game files. Cut Content merely restores what was meant to be there.

Avellone also praised the cut-content modders who added the incomplete files and thanked them for finishing the game, I believe.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I already presented them. Unless the Exile's party has feats that are superior to lifting up a Lightside temple that was visibly resisting their influence and matching the power of a ships thrusters the Inquisitors are more powerful. None of the feats you presented that aren't cut content scale up to that level of power.

In other words you're wasting my time.

'Absence of evidence' arguments don't even remotely register here, when busting through hordes of Sith before killing three Sith Lords in the center of an extreme dark side nexus is so far above those feats that I don't see how you can possibly argue otherwise.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Thanks my friend. You're very knowledgeable in this field and have proved a great help in revealing AP's lies of omission.

D'aw, I'm just a guy who spent too much summer time replaying Kotor II. AP's got me beat for external sources and dedication. It was my pleasure to inform you about the stuff.

Ah, that one's actually my fault. You wrote "All: ______." And I thought that meant all of them individually accomplished the feat ( I.E. it was a mission that could be accomplished by one among several of the companions individually ) but you meant as a group.

Too poor to buy it. Haven't seen a play through. Quote it for me or provide me a video link.

I'm aware of their precog. I took that into account in my response. Now where are the examples of their vaunted "superhuman augmentation."

The contradictions that existed in Legends still exist after the Disney buyout. The Legend canon ranking system is NECESSARY for debate otherwise everything would be chaos with everybody claiming whatever feat/quote from whatever source to back whatever stance they wanted.

Why would I concede? The best feat you've offered is the 3 of them taking on a group of Sith on Dxun and Brianna blitzing 5 handmaidens neither of which compare to dueling evenly with somebody who dodged/deflected hundreds of blaster bolts and the Force feats I mentioned earlier. Especially because we don't know the methods by which the group accomplished the defeat of aforementioned Sith.

I'm not going to grant your request simply because you keep asking in a repetitive fashion.

Frankly, this is something that I've noticed a lot with you, DD, and I'm sure you'll even agree. You frequently debate against characters that you don't actually know about, nor the context behind their feats and accolades. Thus, half of the debate is essentially you just asking questions - and the other is you misinterpreting what you think you know since you don't actually know. For the future, you should read up on the characters before investing yourself in a debate.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Something about why cut-content is canon.

This? http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t630797.html

yes

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Frankly, this is something that I've noticed a lot with you, DD, and I'm sure you'll even agree. You frequently debate against characters that you don't actually know about, nor the context behind their feats and accolades. Thus, half of the debate is essentially you just asking questions - and the other is you misinterpreting what you think you know since you don't actually know. For the future, you should read up on the characters before investing yourself in a debate.

Eh I think you overrate the knowledge one needs to actually debate. All you need to have is the knowledge of the oppositions best feats/capabilities. It only gets tricky in cases like these where cut content becomes relevant.

Also it's not like anybody else would defend the other side and it only takes a few answered questions on the opposing debaters part. Shouldn't be a big inconvenience for them given they waste a majority of their time here already.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
yes

Thanks.

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Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Ah, that one's actually my fault. You wrote "All: ______." And I thought that meant all of them individually accomplished the feat ( I.E. it was a mission that could be accomplished by one among several of the companions individually ) but you meant as a group.

Too poor to buy it. Haven't seen a play through. Quote it for me or provide me a video link.

I'm aware of their precog. I took that into account in my response. Now where are the examples of their vaunted "superhuman augmentation."

The contradictions that existed in Legends still exist after the Disney buyout. The Legend canon ranking system is NECESSARY for debate otherwise everything would be chaos with everybody claiming whatever feat/quote from whatever source to back whatever stance they wanted.

Why would I concede? The best feat you've offered is the 3 of them taking on a group of Sith on Dxun and Brianna blitzing 5 handmaidens neither of which compare to dueling evenly with somebody who dodged/deflected hundreds of blaster bolts and the Force feats I mentioned earlier. Especially because we don't know the methods by which the group accomplished the defeat of aforementioned Sith.

I'm not going to grant your request simply because you keep asking in a repetitive fashion.

In the Jedi Exile's company, Visas finds renewed hope, and begins freeing herself of Nihilus' influence. At last dispelling her grief for the butchery at Katarr, Visas leads the Jedi Exile to her Sith master, and together they defeat the Dark Lord.
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After the Dark Wars, Visas is pivotal in restoring the Jedi Order.
- Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide

Yet you're still ignoring that it is part of KOTOR II.

That best feat is actually combat applicable, unlike a few shiny TK feats. Any argument that we 'don't know how they did it', is rendered moot by a quote I already provided. They used 'destructive fury' to take out the Sith camp before storming inside, dispelling dark side influence and killing the amped Sith Lords.

Destroying an entire Sith camp and killing three Sith Lords on a planet noted to be an extreme dark side site, centered on the tomb of Freedon Nadd, which is itself stated to be 'living' with Freedon Nadd's energies, is far more impressive.

Tbh I appreciate that you're keeping the responses minimal. Way less of a pain to respond to. Invited to a Skype call though so I'll be off for the rest of the night.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Yet you're still ignoring that it is part of KOTOR II.

That best feat is actually combat applicable, unlike a few shiny TK feats. Any argument that we 'don't know how they did it', is rendered moot by a quote I already provided. They used 'destructive fury' to take out the Sith camp before storming inside, dispelling dark side influence and killing the amped Sith Lords.

Destroying an entire Sith camp and killing three Sith Lords on a planet noted to be an extreme dark side site, centered on the tomb of Freedon Nadd, which is itself stated to be 'living' with Freedon Nadd's energies, is far more impressive.

If it was discarded content and not part of the continuity then yes. It didn't happen and therefore cannot be used to argue for the character.

Your destructive fury quote references tactics you should use during that portion of the mission with particular characters because the guide is made for telling you the easiest path through the game.

Unless we know the means by which they accomplished this I don't believe defeating Triumvirate acolytes on a DS nexus is better then matching a guy who blocked dodged hundreds of blaster bolts and having TK in the 100 ton + range.