Count Dooku vs Darth Malgus and Satele Shan

Started by aalyasecura958 pages

um can someone tell me how does this old coot even stand a chance in this battle??? dooku tried to mess with a grandmaster before and that didnt work out too well for him. and malgus is strong like savage opress so can probably knock dooku around with his strength. he isnt beating two opponents arguably at his level at the same time....

Yoda could crush Satele Shan in two seconds flat if he wanted to... there is not a comparison to be made between Satele and Yoda.

Both are amateurish with their saber skill, relying more on their force powers in combat. A dedicated makashi duelist like Dooku wouldn't have a problem deciphering their move sets and disarming them.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
DC is officially Neph-tier dumb. 🙂

Still better then Beni tier which is sub Neph. 🙂

Originally posted by SunRazer
Oh, well, I'm convinced.

About as good as your reply, which is to say, not good at all.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
DC is officially Neph-tier dumb. 🙂

This would hurt, if it didn't come from someone who sports a third copy of Chromosome 21.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Still better then Beni tier which is sub Neph. 🙂

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Honestly I'd call for a DC vs Beni debate, but I get the sense DC would never get around to posting (not to knock you DC cause I definitely think you'd win that one).

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yoda could crush Satele Shan in two seconds flat if he wanted to... there is not a comparison to be made between Satele and Yoda.
well satele is at the top of her order so she's going to be very formidable . not yoda level maybe but very high up and very knowledgable and skilled with the ways in the force.

Originally posted by Kurk
Both are amateurish with their saber skill, relying more on their force powers in combat. A dedicated makashi duelist like Dooku wouldn't have a problem deciphering their move sets and disarming them.
um they're both experienced in combat so they are hardly amateurs. dooku may have studied lightsaber forms a lot but it's a little different when you have to put them into practice against people who have been practicing them constantly in war. so dooku may be more technically skilled but the team has experience. also malgus' strength will be a big factor because dooku usually struggles against people with physical strength.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Still better then Beni tier which is sub Neph. 🙂
This would hurt, if it didn't come from someone who got owned by a pellycan:

smh

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Honestly I'd call for a DC vs Beni debate, but I get the sense DC would never get around to posting (not to knock you DC cause I definitely think you'd win that one).
DC got one-shotted by Temp, I'm not convinced he's a challenge anymore. 🙂

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
um they're both experienced in combat so they are hardly amateurs. dooku may have studied lightsaber forms a lot but it's a little different when you have to put them into practice against people who have been practicing them constantly in war. so dooku may be more technically skilled but the team has experience. also malgus' strength will be a big factor because dooku usually struggles against people with physical strength.
Dooku has years of combat experience as a jedi lol. Malgus and Shan might be better in terms of overall warriors in battle, but Dooku's not some aristocrat who's never gotten his hands dirty. He's fought Mandalorians. Dooku struggles against physically stronger opponents when they also have similar speed and saber form. Malgus is slow, and Zen Vallow (who's far from Dooku's tier) has been shown to exploit this, dodging several of his strikes and landing several of his own against slow-poke Malgus.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
DC got one-shotted by Temp, I'm not convinced he's a challenge anymore. 🙂

It ain't even over yet.....

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
About as good as your reply, which is to say, not good at all.

You mean the one where I at least outlined why he doesn't get stomped in sabers? You just said "yep, he gets stomped" without even addressing my point.

Cuz u know ur wrong. 🙂

Your A>B>C reasons were pretty shitty, thus you get a shitty "nuh-uh", in return.

Even someone of your limited mental capacity should be able to comprehend that logic.

How it is A>B>C? Obi-Wan and Anakin are in every way superior to Malgus and Satele as duelists, and have far better synergy. I'm talking about every element of them as duelists, not overall (although obviously that amounts to them being better overall).

Debate the point or it's a concession.

Originally posted by SunRazer
How it is A>B>C? Obi-Wan and Anakin are in every way superior to Malgus and Satele as duelists, and have far better synergy. I'm talking about every element of them as duelists, not overall (although obviously that amounts to them being better overall).

Debate the point or it's a concession.

Do you consider Obi Wan force showings better than Deceived Malgus' (or his prior iterations)? If yes, why?

Obi-Wan's better than Hope Malgus etc. - I wouldn't say Deceived Malgus. IIRC, most of Obi-Wan's feats were accomplished with build-up time and focus which wouldn't be realistic in combat, whereas Malgus performs on-the-go sort of feats that you can easily bring into combat. And as far as those instantaneous showings go, I think Malgus' are better according to memory.

What I was saying before related to dueling, not Force power.

Do you think Malgus would be closer to Kenobi's tier if the bring him back in an expansion?

Depends if he gets weaker like Old Master Maul 🙂

Assuming they make him stronger (because face it, it's TOR, they're not going to make him weaker if they bring him back), then yeah, probably. At most he'd be a notch beneath, IMO. Possibly above, even.