Count Dooku vs Darth Malgus and Satele Shan

Started by Azronger8 pages

What the hell is this? Dooku has never had any trouble facing two opponents at once. In fact, I'd say he relishes under the assault of two foes, given his performances against Obi-Wan and Anakin in S6 and RotS. I say he eviscerates Shan with absolutely no difficulty at all, and then deals with Malgus using his superior swordsmanship and unarmed skill.

And if we factor in the Force, he'll probably just one-shot Shan and proceed to ragdoll Malgus.

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
There's no such thing as negative proof. The one who claims Darach was tired or that Malgus was enraged is the one who needs to prove his thesis. It's elementary logic, Beni. 😮

When you dismiss the feat due to possible mitigating factors, without proving them, you incur another logical fallacy. Beni, you disappoint me. 😮

I used the Malgus jobbing as an allusion to your own, flawed logic but with the intention of helping Malgus' case - it can't be proved.

That's just a elaborated rewording of what you already said, my response is unchanged. 😬

Originally posted by Azronger
What the hell is this? Dooku has never had any trouble facing two opponents at once. In fact, I'd say he relishes under the assault of two foes, given his performances against Obi-Wan and Anakin in S6 and RotS. I say he eviscerates Shan with absolutely no difficulty at all, and then deals with Malgus using his superior swordsmanship and unarmed skill.

And if we factor in the Force, he'll probably just one-shot Shan and proceed to ragdoll Malgus.

it's a disgrace.

Az being absolutely laughable as always. 😂

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Occam's razor. What is more plausible, Malgus jobbing for no apparent reason, a Master and Apprentice having bad synergy, or Malgus getting enraged by the death/failure of his master, and Darach getting tired from fighting 1vs2?

I think that latter. And apparently others do too.

That's a heuristic and also logically unreliable. Now that you distorted Occam's razor to try to support your appeal to both majority and probability, you are free to prove your case, because I'm certain you know that Occam's razor helps to formulate theories but in any way proves them, eh?

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Az being absolutely laughable as always. 😂
You and him should have a debate. 🙂

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Az being absolutely laughable as always. 😂

"As always"? Even when you have praised me and my arguments? Even when I one-shot you? Would you label yourself as "laughable", too? You're just roasting yourself here, buddy.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
That's just a elaborated rewording of what you already said, my response is unchanged. 😬

Don't worry, Beni. It's an old human habit to scrap logic when it doesn't support the preferred results. You aren't doing anything new. 🙂

Originally posted by SunRazer

I'm not seeing strength or skill that surpasses, say, Grievous, who never gave Dooku fits with a blade. Only Yoda-tier characters have given Dooku "fits" with a blade before. .

Have to disagree with this part here.

"And as to the generals combat skills, few, if any, jedi would be capable of defeting him. There had been moments during the extensive combat sessions when even Dooku had been hard pressed to out duel the cyborg."

-Labyrinth of Evil

As always"? Even when you have praised me and my arguments?

You can present your arguments nicely, and still be laughable in the process. 👆

Even when I one-shot you?

Never happen AFAIK, also, you still have yet to reply to that comment on the Revan and Vitiate vs Plagueis and Tenebrous thread.

Also, just 'cuz a person didn't respond, doesn't mean they "lost" or "conceded", lmao. Not in regards to myself, anyway.

Would you label yourself as "laughable", too? You're just roasting yourself here, buddy.

Oh, I wouldn't know --- I don't comment much on my own debating abilities these days, like I did, say, 1-2 years ago.

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
Don't worry, Beni. It's an old human habit to scrap logic when it doesn't support the preferred results. You aren't doing anything new. 🙂
Nope, you just can't seem to grasp how the feat is bunk no matter how you look at it. I appreciate your input tho. 👆

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
You can present your arguments nicely, and still be laughable in the process. 👆

So... because they disagree with your personal opinion, they're automatically laughable? 😂

Never happen AFAIK, also, you still have yet to reply to that comment on the Revan and Vitiate vs Plagueis and Tenebrous thread.

Lack of motivation, mostly. And I still have Nai to deal with.

And you haven't responded to this, either: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15999495#post15999495

Also, just 'cuz a person didn't respond, doesn't mean they "lost" or "conceded", lmao. Not in regards to myself, anyway.

My post: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15960229#post15960229

Your concession: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15974811#post15974811

One. Shot. 👆

TenebrousWay reminds me of Ziggy for some reason.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Nope, you just can't seem to grasp how the feat is bunk no matter how you look at it. I appreciate your input tho. 👆

I'm not discussing the quality of the feat but the logical malabarism and double standards commonly practiced.

Originally posted by Azronger
TenebrousWay reminds me of Ziggy for some reason.

Don't project your sexual fantasies over me. lmao

So... because they disagree with your personal opinion, they're automatically laughable?

Only when they pitfall into the ominous realm of ridiculousness. I agree with Ant on little, but I don't find most of his arguments to be laughable.

Lack of motivation, mostly. And I still have Nai to deal with.

*Shrugs*
If you say so, lal.

One. Shot.

Actually, you made two replies in that debate, thus, not a one- shot.

Aside from that, even all-time greats have lost to peoole below their threshold, hardly indicative of much, tbh.

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
That's a heuristic and also logically unreliable. Now that you distorted Occam's razor to try to support your appeal to both majority and probability, you are free to prove your case, because I'm certain you know that Occam's razor helps to formulate theories but in any way proves them, eh?

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
I'm not discussing the quality of the feat but the logical malabarism and double standards commonly practiced.
Originally posted by TenebrousWay
lolwhat? The correct description of the feat is that Malgus defeated Darach after the Jedi killed Vindican and fended off Malgus before. It's perfectly usable.
mmm

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
logical malabarism
lmao

Lawl. This b!tchfights are lolworthy(tho I obviously have my own).
Also, wtf is a oneshot is a debate? Even when you horribly massacre someone in one single post, but they can still respond. So...no oneshot.
On the other side, someone can make the worst, most pathetic, post in the history of debating, but when his opponent(even if he would be the greatest debater of all time -no hint at you, Deronn 😛- won't respond, got he then oneshotted?
LMFAO
This isn't Star Wars, or DC, it's debating.

Not a ***** fight 'cuz none of us [well, myself at least] is actually being serious right now.

i would one-shot all of u irl